Bye Bye Germany

From the desk of The Brussels Journal on Sat, 2006-11-11 03:22

A quote from the German weekly Der Spiegel, 10 November 2006

Faced with poor job prospects, high taxes and an intrusive bureaucracy, more and more Germans are choosing to emigrate. Most of those who leave, though, are highly qualified [and young] – which could mean devastating economic consequences. [...] They are fed up with living in a country where all opportunities already seem to be taken: opportunities to succeed in one’s career, to own property and to achieve prosperity.

Back to Reality

Submitted by Joern on Thu, 2006-11-16 14:43.

From: http://danmark.wordpress.com/2006/11/14/tegning-illustrerer-det-danske-velfare-dilemma-2/

"Most of the European welfare systems are to a high degree built on tax-payments and public expenditures distributed over the lifetime. That’s the reason why they were heading for ruin from the beginning. In Denmark the non-Western immigrants cost the society, in the end the businesses 2.5 mio. ddk an individual in average a lifetime, the Danes cost 750,000 ddk in average (the difference is a factor 3.3). These calculations origin directly from the Danish official Welfare Commission that was reported in the newspaper Boersen 1 December 2005[...]

Refering to a figure on the link above:
The red arrow shows the impossible or the ideological way. The black arrows show the possible way. There is no other way. If the structures are not changed very soon in the two biggest European nations on the mainland, and irrespective of the international competition combined with the steadily increasing problem of financing welfare made by the increasing share of pensioners, and at the same time the decreasing accession to the labour force plus the self-created miss of a solution to the problem with fertility – illustrated in the calculation on Danish relations in the first part – Europe will go bankruptcy again and/or become an Arab caliphate. ‘Eurabia’ is just an ideological construction in good distance to reality.[...]"

J. E. Vig, Denmark
http://Danmark.Wordpress.com

still early stages?

Submitted by JimMtnViewCaUSA on Sun, 2006-11-12 17:44.

I have to believe that a person living in the Euro-zone would not be finding this so urgent? No doubt one's experience of daily life does not show many danger signs yet?

On this site, and in various books we hear accounts of street crime, left-politicos sucking up to Muslim voters, inflows of Middle Eastern immigrants, net outflow of white Euros, low birth rates of indigenous white Euros, much higher birth rates among Muslim immigrants, higher radicalization of young Muslims over their parent's generation, popular names in the pediatrics wards of hospitals going in the direction of Mohammed, Akbar and Ali....the list goes on and on.

But, again, presumably in daily life for most Euros this is not yet directly apparent? Many of us believe we see a trend. But obviously that outlook is not universally held. 

@Flynn...

Submitted by Kapitein Andre on Sun, 2006-11-12 11:07.

Well, with the economic ascendancy of the B.R.I.C. countries and competition from the European Union (in spite of its issues), Estados Unidos de México...er, I mean the United States (*cough*) needs all the help it can get.

We Love It

Submitted by flynn on Sat, 2006-11-11 18:27.

We love it when intellectuals and talented and ambitious immigrates come to America. I always have to laugh when I hear Europeans giggle and talk of all of the 'stupid Americans'. Thousands that work at NASA, thousands of talented doctors, thousands of scientists, thousands of high tech workers, and millions of people who do not mind just WORKING. Yeah, and a lot of these are first and previous generations of immigrants. Laugh your silly heads off. You don't even have a clue. Your loss, our gain!!! 

LOL!

Submitted by atheling on Sat, 2006-11-11 09:19.

Amsterdamsky: "I actually left the US for almost exactly the same reasons with the notable exception that it is much easier to make money in the US just the endless unfounded lawsuits by parasites..."

 

Let me guess: the "lawsuits" were actually court fines for possession? *evil grin*

I actually left the US for

Submitted by Amsterdamsky on Sat, 2006-11-11 09:03.

I actually left the US for almost exactly the same reasons with the notable exception that it is much easier to make money in the US just the endless unfounded lawsuits by parasites make it more difficult to hold on to.  I think this is not just a German problem.

Cogito

Submitted by Cogito on Sat, 2006-11-11 09:33.

...or yet another annoyance spelled e-c-o-f-a-s-c-i-s-m. Both islam and ecofascism are partners moreover.

But the most important

Submitted by fqlr34n2 on Sat, 2006-11-11 08:30.

The article says:
But the most important motivation is often economic, as Germans facing a lack of career opportunities at home seek to build new lives in places where their skills are still in demand.

...

Many companies already lack specialized workers today, and 16 percent of German companies are unable to fill all their positions because of a lack of qualified candidates. There are about 7,000 unfilled engineering jobs in the machine building industry alone.

How can people be emigrating because of a lack of jobs while so many jobs go unfilled? It is surprising that such an obvious contradiction is not explained in the article. Is the lack of jobs really the most important motivation for emmigration or is there something else the author of the article is afraid to mention?

But the most important

Submitted by ubs on Mon, 2006-11-13 04:04.

How can people be emigrating because of a lack of jobs while so many jobs go unfilled? It is surprising that such an obvious contradiction is not explained in the article. Is the lack of jobs really the most important motivation for emmigration or is there something else the author of the article is afraid to mention?
That is fairly easy to explain. First consider the low number of 7,000 unfilled positions vs. 4,000,000+ unemployed. Even in a perfect market economy I would not expect every knick-knack manufacturer in the last hick town to instantly find all the dream employees they are wishing for. Remember, there are just as many undesirable employers as there are unqualified job applicants.
Second, Germans also have a somewhat paternalistic attitude towards employment, sort of like indentured servitude. (Servants - oops employees - actually receive a report card from their employer when the leave the company.) That makes the German labor market somewhat unattractive for talented young people who prefer the more easy-going, business-like Anglo-saxon attitude towards employment.

receive a report card from

Submitted by Voyager on Mon, 2006-11-13 09:11.

receive a report card from their employer when the leave the company

which the Germans call a Zeugnis and the Anglo-Saxons a Reference, though for legal reasons in the Us and Britain they use the telephone and headhunters to insulate the employers from liability for what is said.

Maybe the vacanies are in jobs for which people are over-qualified ? After all not many Investment Bankers are suited for work with temporary contracts working in bottling factories when demand for bankers is huge elsewhere.

I see Jim you live in Mountain View which is pretty atypical for Europe, and not even typical for the USA. I would bet there is less street crime in European cities than in Boston, MA on The Orange Line or south of Main in Dallas. If Americans are so concerned about White People in Europe why not change your immigration laws to favour Europeans as you did prior to 1965. Since 9/11 Muslim immigration to the US has actually increased which makes Europeans feel only Hispanics and Muslims are welcome in the USA nowadays

rec'v a report card from

Submitted by JimMtnViewCaUSA on Mon, 2006-11-13 11:17.

Yes, voyager, that is my exact question. I'm assuming that these patterns listed below are not necessarily apparent to someone who lives in Europe and walks the streets every day on their way to and from work. Is that a true assumption?
Regarding legal immigration to the US, you're right. There is pretty much concious discrimination against legal immigration, and against white Euro immigration vs other nations.
I can't find the reference right now, but as far back as the Clinton Administration there was a conscious policy to give some preference to non-Euro cultures, perhaps to break up ("diversify") a US culture that favors democracy. More poor and under-educated immigrants would imply more voters for the Democrat Party.

Actually Jim it goes back to

Submitted by Voyager on Mon, 2006-11-13 13:28.

Actually Jim it goes back to the 1965 immigration Act when the lobby groups skewed it against Europeans. The last attempt to amend this led to the "non-discriminatory" lottery of Green Cards which Tip O'Neill rigged to have a reserved quota for Irish Citizens - as you know Ireland has the most lax Citizenship laws in the EU and even the Saudi Arabian billionaire who has sued Racehel Ehrenfeld for claiming he has links to Al-Qaeda has an Irish passport.

No, unless you live in certain areas you do not experience street crime though you hear about it. Surprisingly it is good areas where you can experience it - London has big problems especially Oxford Street. It is also a case that gangs come from Colombia and other places to do steaming and pickpocketing; then London is full of illegal Brazilians etc.

There are other places where there are few problems...............it is not as if everywhere in Europe is the South Bronx, most are as boring as Mountain View and Palo Alto. Not many of us would walk around Montrose in Houston at night, or Brixton in London - yet the Upper West Side in New York is much better now the NYPD is taking action - and the LAPD in New Orleans noone would trust to protect you walking around at night.

we have Uli

Submitted by JimMtnViewCaUSA on Sat, 2006-11-11 05:30.

I was watching a US television series, Project Runway. It is a "reality" TV show in which a group of fashion designers compete. Each week they get a new fashion challenge and each week one of them is dropped from the show.
This season the winner was Uli Herzner. She moved to Miami Florida USA from Germany (she was born and raised in the former East Germany). It is not only the "high tech", culturally conservative and intellectuals who leave Europe behind. Creative people are leaving also.
http://www.uliherzner.com