Muhammad Takes Over Protestant Church

From the desk of Paul Belien on Mon, 2006-05-08 16:41

A German reader informs us that it is not just the Catholic Church that has its quislings selling out to the Muslims. On Palm Sunday (9 April) a Protestant church in Bochum/Germany celebrated Muhammad’s birthday. The church invited the local Turkish community and the Turkish Consul, Munis Dirik, to attend the service. A Turkish music band played sufi music during the service, in which Protestants and Muslims joined together in honour of Muhammad.

In his sermon, Fred Sobiech, the protestant vicar, tried to link the figures of Muhammad and Jesus, saying: “Today we remember the birth and life of Muhammad and the beginning of the week of the passion of Christ, leading to Good Friday, the day Jesus of Nazareth was crucified.”

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Sad

Submitted by siegetower on Thu, 2006-10-12 17:40.

This is sad. Very sad. We have lost our way as nations and as members of particular faiths, or as secular humans. So too have we lost our way entirely down the path of Western Civilisation, to celebrate the life of the bandit mohammed within a building that could not have existed without the Reformation and subsequent protestant Enlightenment.

 

Defend Christendom. Defend Jewry. Oppose socialism in Europe.

abc hit and run

Submitted by Pat Patterson on Wed, 2006-05-10 00:47.

Another factlet from abc and cohorts. The Covenant of Omar was indeed magnanimous and generous. Yet Omar had refused an offer by the Patriarch for space to pray while a new mosque was being built. Omar refused because he knew that later Muslims would claim, seize and destroy the Church because if Caliph Omar prayed there it was no longer part of the Christian realm and no longer inviolate.
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Monty Python's Flying Protestant Circus

Submitted by Arthur on Tue, 2006-05-09 20:23.

Know what an oxymoron is?

An example is in the article itself: "In his sermon, Fred Sobiech, the protestant vicar, tried to link the figures of Muhammad and Jesus." Sounds like a cardinal sin (also an oxymoron). How can the Protestant "Solus Christus" principle be reconciled with a belief that nullifies this same principle?

May I suggest this Mr. Sobiech reads the book of Submission?

Not only is the Jesus that Christians believe in stigmatised under the Submission as the totally wrong person, but also (5.51) "O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people." and (9.30) "And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"

But if in the coming elections in Belgium the vociferous defenders of the "Religion of Submission" go preferably hand in hand with the spiritual grandchildren of Karl Marx, founding father of the antireligious "Opium des Volkes", then I surely hope that one day a new Monty Python's Flying Circus makes the sequel to the "Life of Brian". Only this time it could be called "Life of Achmed" (or something alike).

"Always look on the bright side of live ..." (while you still have one).

New saints?

Submitted by Dizma on Tue, 2006-05-09 09:33.

During the Reformation Protestant church abolished worshipping saints. As I can see some Protestants in Germany canonized a new saint. Did mainstream Protestant churches really lose their spiritual compass?

That's disgusting.

Submitted by Mike77 on Mon, 2006-05-08 21:46.

That's disgusting. You might as well celebrate the birth of Hitler or Pol Pot in a church and sycophantically "link" the event to Christ's ministry.

This is Mohammed:

On the whole, Muhammad's practice and constant encouragement of bloodshed are unique in the history of religions. Allah's order to "kill the unbelievers wherever you find them" is an injunction both unambiguous and powerful. The word "genocide" was not even coined when Muhammad conveyed Allah's alleged dictum, "When we decide to destroy a population, then we destroy them utterly." (17:16-17) Disobedient people "we utterly destroyed." (21:11) That Islam sees the world as an open-ended conflict between the Land of Peace (Dar al-Islam) and the Land of War (Dar al-Harb), which must be conquered by jihad, is the most important bequest of Muhammad to history.

To celebrate a man like this in a Christian church is blasphemy pure and simple.

This fool - the vicar - must have absolutely no idea of who Mohammed was and what he did. But, that being so, he had no business going ahead with what he did.

Here is what Islam did in India. The same will happen in Europe if people do not wake up and take steps to avert it.

Muhammed's Birthday

Submitted by Chris Gillibrand on Mon, 2006-05-08 17:41.

I bet you anything being protestant that this church does not celebrate the birthday of St John the Baptist or of Our Lady.

Luther would be turning in his grave; an extract from one of his prayers in which he outrageously compares Mohammed to the Pope.
"Be also pleased at length to check and stop the detestable abomination of the pope, Mohammed, and other sects which blaspheme thy name, hinder thy kingdom, and oppose thy will. Graciously hear this our prayer, since thou hast so commanded, taught, and promised, even as we believe and trust through thy dear Son Jesus Christ our Lord, who liveth and reigneth with thee and the Holy Ghost, world without end. Amen."

The Christuskirche on the website devoted to a tour of Bochum, says that it has changed its use into a "Church of Cultures" as the house of the one God and one world in which one can be different without worry, a sacred space for the beauty of the plural, and for the one leading culture (Leitkultur) namely that of difference.