Norway Commits Suicide

From the desk of The Brussels Journal on Wed, 2007-01-10 08:37

A quote from the Norwegian newspaper Aftenposten, 9 January 2007

More than half of ethnic Norwegian women under age 25 choose abortion if they get pregnant, according to a new study. [...] Eskild’s study marked the first time that researchers tracked the incidence of abortions and births among ethnic Norwegian women. [...] “It’s very surprising that it’s more common for women under 25 to have an abortion than it is to carry out their pregnancy,” Eskild told newspaper Aftenposten.

In the US, the overall

Submitted by sonomaca on Fri, 2007-01-12 09:44.

In the US, the overall abortion rate is about 24%, give or take.  Among white women, it's only 16%, which is down by more than half since 1973. 

Among black women, the abortion rate is just shy of 50%, a 7% increase since 1973. 

Among hispanic women, it's less than 24%, a decline over the past few years.

My conclusion: the white female feminists who push the abortion agenda have drastically cut back on the numbers of abortions they undergo, just as they have convinced black women to abort on a massive scale.  Isn't that some kind of genocide?

BTW: no stats on Muslim women, but my guess would be, oh, ZERO.

Taboo

Submitted by marcfrans on Thu, 2007-01-11 00:08.

@ dhomoney

 

You make an important point by pointing to a "popular misconception".  The naive-left taboo against "killing" is dogmatic morality for infantiles.  All human morality is a matter of human 'intentions', not of physical actions.  In other words, it requires an honest assesment of intentions and circumstances, with the emphasis on the word "honest".  It follows that the moral consequences of choices made in genuine moral dilemmas cannot be known with absolute 'certainty'.  

The morality of any particular abortion (or any other 'killing') cannot be separated from an honest assesment of the genuine 'reason' for that abortion (or 'killing').  The moral judgement must hinge on that reason or motivation, not the physical act itself.

So, I do not think that the crucial distinction between "killing" and "murder" is ever purely a matter of "semantics".     

What is the problem?

Submitted by Maria on Wed, 2007-01-10 17:57.

Is it the fact that abortion is legal in Norway?
Or the fact that 50% of the women under the age of 25 choose abortion?

Children are still being born in Norway. Their mothers are just a bit older than mothers were 20 years ago.

birth rate

Submitted by lawriter on Sat, 2007-01-13 08:03.

Maria,

Yes, children are still being born in Norway, but not enough to replenish the population. You assume that all of the Norwegian women having abortions are simply waiting until after they are 25 to then have a family. This is wishful thinking. The high rate of abortion in Norway reveals an attitude against traditional roles and beliefs. Having children and raising a family are not very important things in today's society. Norway will not survive such a disastrously low birth rate.

The birth rate, lawriter

Submitted by Maria on Thu, 2007-01-18 14:13.

is the same in Norway and in the US.
Will the US survive such a disastrously low birth rate?

And yes; women in e.g. Norway are waiting to have their children after the age of 25. The average age for women having their first baby is app. 28.

Maria, I just met a girl named....

Submitted by lawriter on Tue, 2007-01-23 04:52.

Maria,

You may want to check your source of information. According to Wikipedia, the United States (14.14 births per 1,000 population) is ranked 137th in the world according to birthrate, ahead of Norway (11.4 births per 1,000 population) at 154th. Both birth rates are rather low compared to the rest of the world, as the two nations are modern and Western, but I think the USA has some things going for it that can help stem the tide of low birth rate. The United States has a much more robust immigration system, and these immigrants are having alot of children. And there are some areas in the United States that still have a sustainable birth rate, as in more rural areas.

It would seem that modern societies might not be favored in evolutionary terms.

Is a society that does this worth saving?

Submitted by Lancelot Owen on Wed, 2007-01-10 13:48.

Norway sounds like a country well on its way to what will be a well-deserved extinction. A sickening triumph of death over life that seems to be being replicated across the post-Christian West. Appalling.

Why is anyone surprised?

Submitted by lcmslutheran on Wed, 2007-01-10 13:38.

When you learn that humans are only ascendant apes and that they have no sacred value, as in the Ten Commandments proscription against killing, this will inevitably be the result. Look for more to come as in Florida where they have already tried to get the right to kill a young child as old as two years because they developed a serious malady.

lcmslutheran

Submitted by dhomoney on Wed, 2007-01-10 18:33.

While I understand your argument your assertion that the 10 Commandments includes a "proscription" against killing is incorrect. It is a popular misconception, but the correct translation from Hebrew and Greek is "Thou shalt not murder" and not the popular "Thou shall not kill" but for this particular argument this may be semantics.

Interesting

Submitted by Voyager on Thu, 2007-01-11 09:46.

I have a problem with expensive incubators and ICU cots for premature babies born within the time limits for abortion. It seems perverse to save one child at great expense and probably low viability and yet to extinguish other healthy foetuses because someone has decided to extinguish life.

If human survival becomes a matter of whim it is a sorry state, particular when that supposedly personal choice is funded publicly. After Marilyn Monroe had 7 abortions sterilisation might have been the least-worst option, but it appears adults behaving like children have superior rights to foetuses who want to be children.

Europe has taken a highly liberal approach to abortion coupled with 1960s version of Climate Change Apocalyptics being Overpopulation and the need not to eat out the planet................so wealthy westerners wined, dined, and vacationed and subcontracted population out to the Third World before importing their offspring into their homelands.

If this wasn't the Media Message of The Crackpot Left - but they swallowed it and gorged themselves on Consumerism to the point that they have even subcontracted out the manufacturing of goods to China while Europeans return their economies to bureaucratic pen-pushing and the pre-industrial era of Land and Finance

Sad but true...

Submitted by Kapitein Andre on Wed, 2007-01-10 09:35.

Why must gender equality and women's liberation correlate with the decline in national integrity, decline in fertility rates, and the distant but looming threat of extinction for European peoples?