Apologies for Convictions: America Fast Turning European
From the desk of The Brussels Journal on Fri, 2008-11-14 13:37
A quote from Diana West at her blog, 13 November 2008
Look at the reaction to the passage of Proposition 8 in California, which amends the California Constitution to limit marriage to one man and one woman. Having seen homosexual marriage fail at the polls by a margin of 52 to 47 percent, Prop 8 opponents are already busy filing lawsuits, hoping to overturn the poll results in the courts, staging protests, and singling out for ridicule and attack at least the weaker elements of the coalition that brought the proposition to victory […]
The Los Angeles Times reports generally about what it describes as "an outpouring of demonstrations ranging from quiet vigils to noisy street protests against Proposition 8, including rallies outside churches and the Mormon temple in Westwood as well as boycotts of some businesses that contributed to the Yes on 8 campaign." […]
The mainstream media have so far failed to get across the intensity of the ordeal that supporters of Prop 8 may now be subject to – something I realized on coming across this extraordinary blog account of a meeting at the legendary restaurant El Coyote in Hollywood, not far from where I grew up in Laurel Canyon. The meeting was between the elderly Mormon owner, who donated $100 to support Prop 8, and Prop 8 opponents, who are threatening a boycott, and it is as soul-grinding as something out of Soviet show trial history.
In a dramatic, closed door meeting, the owner of a renowned Mexican eatery in Hollywood expressed regret in her decision to donate $100 to the “Yes on Prop 8″campaign, but her remarks before a group of about 60 members of Los Angeles’ LGBT community fell short of an outright personal apology. […]
Moments later, the same group which had been invited for lunch and margaritas grew increasingly verbal, apparently reacting to the lack of a direct apology from Ms. Christoffersen, and she left the building in tears. The group continued to meet for another 30 minutes, before dispersing for what appeared to be a looming boycott. One demonstrator was already shouting outside.
Still, there were some dissenting voices in the room. One woman compared the angry gathering to Nazi Germany, when Hitler’s military singled out individual Jews in a witch hunt for their religious beliefs. “Why are we singling out one restaurant?” the woman asked. “Are you ready to go up against every single restaurant in the city?”
Openly-gay restaurant manager Billy Schoeppner, announced that El Coyote would make two $5,000 contributions, each to the Los Angeles Gay & Lesbian Center and the Lambda Legal Defense Fund. He also asked those gathered to suggest any possible or practical ways the legendary establishment could avert a full-on boycott and PR war by the Los Angeles LGBT community. […]
Almost anti-climatically, further fallout from Prop 8 was reported in a New York Times story about the resignation of a California theatre director brought about due to the man's support for the traditional marriage proposition. The Times writes:
The artistic director, Scott Eckern, came under fire recently after it became known that he contributed $1,000 to support Proposition 8, which amended the state Constitution to recognize only male-female marriages. […]
In the media, among the elites, in academia, on the sidewalk, at El Coyote, in the theatre, the stage is being set ... for intolerance.
@Diana West
Submitted by Kapitein Andre on Sat, 2008-11-15 08:06.
I. Is "active" participation in the legislative process threatening? Prior to this deluge of civic apathy, public debates were lively events complete with hisses, boos and chair throwing. And these clashes produced a vibrant democracy, as opposed to the carefully choreographed and restrained rallies and debates one now comes to expect.
II. In liberal capitalist democracies, individuals are at liberty to vote with their feet and their dollars. Proposition 8 supporters are equally free to boycott "homosexual" or opponents' businesses.
III. Anyone who apologizes for their convictions due to public or financial pressure isn't upholding them. Ms. Christoffersen was not forced to invite the LGBT individuals into her restaurant nor serve them food and drink.
IV. If the El Coyote is owned and operated by a homosexual, I fail to understand how it must donate to LGBT organizations in order to avoid a boycott or protests.
V. If heterosexuals have chosen not to use their constitutional rights and freedoms, is it the fault of the LGBT community?
Can't take no for an answer
Submitted by Thalpy on Fri, 2008-11-14 22:20.
As you said, we are becomming more and more European. Europe continues to hold elections until the desired outcome is reached, while we in America take everthing to a sympathetic court to overrule the will of the people. I hope we won't tolerate this much longer.
When Wrong is Right
Submitted by American Conservative on Fri, 2008-11-14 14:12.
I compare gay aggressive activism to the Muslims. Both parties want to shove their twisted beliefs and practices on societies who rejected them.
Homosexuality is also related to atheism.
It is not that religion is the opiate of the masses, rather it is atheism that is the opiate of the homosexuals.