Amsterdamsky: See any patterns here? I am no fan of jews or christians either who I also see as a threat to my civil liberties but Islam is far more scary.

Although I share some of your wariness, I must drive the point home that true freedom of or from religion has and never will exist. Despite periods of balance, wherein freedom is maximized, there is always a victorious ideology at any given time, or at least a first among equals.

The Islamic challenge cannot be met with libertarian laws. We require an ideology that can unite, mobilize and command, not an atomising one. Christianity is insufficient in this regard because of its waning influence and its peaceful and universalist undertones; Judaism remains an ethno-centric creed, and is therefore not univeralist enough.

"I am no fan of jews or christians either...". Please,do tell us more.

"The politician, a member of the Austrian Freedom Party FPÖ, an anti-immigration party which is in opposition, added that Islam is “a totalitarian system of domination that should be cast back to its birthplace on the other side of the Mediterranean.” She also warned for “a Muslim immigration tsunami,” saying that “in 20 or 30 years, half the population of Austria will be Muslim” if the present immigration policies continue. Following her remarks, Muslim extremists threatened to kill Susanne Winter and she was placed under police protection "

See any patterns here? I am no fan of jews or christians either who I also see as a threat to my civil liberties but Islam is far more scary.

Frostbitten: In 1618, Europeans were provided a lesson about fascist invaders intent on domination. They failed to learn the lesson.

What in creation are you talking about? Fascism had nothing whatsoever to do with 1618.

Frostbitten: In WWI, Europeans were provided a lesson about fascist invaders intent on domination.

Wrong again!

Frostbitten: In WWII, Europeans were provided a lesson about fascist invaders intent on domination.  They failed to learn the lesson.

I suppose that the Communist lesson is being ignored? Is Europe merely England, France and the Benelux countries?

Frostbitten: Do not expect North Americans to save Eurabia a third time, as your self-destructive mental illness has finally crossed the pond and infected us.

There was no United States in 1618!

When hundreds of followers of Rev. Jim Jones followed him to South America to end their lives by drinking poison Kool Aid, no rational person (or even the media) blamed the mass suicide on the existence of organic toxins.  Observers rightly blamed those who willingly surrendered themselves, along with their children, to the toxin.

In 1618, Europeans were provided a lesson about fascist invaders intent on domination.  They failed to learn the lesson.

In WWI, Europeans were provided a lesson about fascist invaders intent on domination.  They failed to learn the lesson.

In WWII, Europeans were provided a lesson about fascist invaders intent on domination.  They failed to learn the lesson.

Eurabia still fails to understand that their demise will not be due to the existence of Islamic poison, but rather their suicidal desire based on self-loathing.

Do not expect North Americans to save Eurabia a third time, as your self-destructive mental illness has finally crossed the pond and infected us.

There appears to be much confusion here...

http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/unlettered_prophet.htm

Surely Islam does not have and does not permit symbols. Is Moh'd a symbol, is the Koran, is Aisha? As for 641 members of the EU "parliament" - aren't they exactly like the people who told the Nazis where the Jews and gypsies were hiding?

I was under the impression that Mohammed was illiterate and that he dictated the Koran to his scribe.

Implying that Allah the all knowing dictated his thoughts to an illiterate trader who then dictated them to a scribe.  No risk of garbled messages there then.  Might it not have been easier for Allah to speak to the scribe?  Or miraculously teach M to write?  Or miraculously carve his thoughts onto stone (he'd already done it once)?

Whether divinely inspired or not, Mohammed may not have written the Koran. In his time, literacy was far from being as widespread as it is in the Western world today, so the Koran may have actually been written by others. In fact, even today literacy is not as widespread in the Muslim world as it is in the West.

Strange isn't it, how so many countries have the same problem, Switzerland, Austria, Holland, Denmark, U.K. etc.

It's almost like they are operating under one supranational government.

Please sign the petition in support of Geert Wilders

http://www.petitiononline.com/wilders/petition.html

All our wonderful, barely-elected, corrupt, self-seeking (sorry, trustworthy) Belgian, dhimmi politicians have a vested interested in pandering to the muslims: if they didn’t they would be out in the wilderness and the gravy train would pass them by. The ostrich-like, western voters will keep voting for these morons until, in the near future, they find that their own daughters are going to have to wear bin liners and be treated as disposable commodities. Then, like all appeasers, they may, just possibly, realize what they’ve done but, as always, too late.

European leaders should just pick a time and place to meet with Islamic leaders in order to sign an official surrender. Watching the slow death of the cradle of western civilization is just too agonizing. The fact that this problem is self inflicted makes it even worse.

More like 1618...

onecent:

"Do European zombies ever wake up in the morning and envision just what future their kids and grandchildren are inheriting?"

No, because they don't have any kids. Therefore, there is no future to care about.

Politicians rely on votes and given the "tight" electoral process in Austria between the two major parties, no one should be surprised at the pandering for votes from the Turkish and Muslim communities in Austria. This "swing" vote can turn an election, hence voter "information" phamplets written in Turkish and the "sacrificing" of an outspoken critic to molify this minority. As an Austrian politician informed a narcotics prevention unit, if we give you more officers, we will be admitting we have a drug problem! The Austrian Eagle might as well be an Austrian Ostrich as they bury their collective heads in the sand. Unfortunately, in the EU and elsewhere, they are not alone.

"Depicting Jesus sodomizing his apostles is not considered to be a “degradation of religious symbols” in Austria, but referring to the historic fact that Muhammad married a six-year old girl is “incitement to racial hatred.

Neither has Mr Hrdlicka been threatened by Christian assassins for his “opinions.” The difference between Christian and Muslim extremists is that the former do not aim to kill those who offend them, but the latter do – which is perhaps also why the European authorities fear the radical Muslims and persecute their opponents while they subsidize those who insult Christians."

Yup, it's like beating up your grandmother.  Real courageous.

Does anyone know whether there has been any protest over that blasphemous piece of s*** by Hrdlicka?

"He that would make his own liberty secure must guard even his enemy from oppression; for if he violates this duty he establishes a precedent that will reach to himself.” – Thomas Paine

its 1938 all over again

What's really pathetic is that this USSR style muzzling of free speech and fascist criminalizing of opinions and thoughts never pushes the EU's passive sheeple to take it to the polls in any serious manner or to the streets.

Do European zombies ever wake up in the morning and envision just what future their kids and grandchildren are inheriting?  And, who the hell do they think is going to rescue them from their self-imposed rot?