Whom Will France Mourn? A Tale of an Accident and a Murder

From the desk of Thomas Landen on Mon, 2007-11-26 19:25

Yesterday evening, three young people died in the suburbs to the north of Paris. Mouhsin (15) and Lakamy (16), two immigrant youths, were killed in Villiers-le-Bel when their motorcycle, which is said to have been stolen, collided at high speed with a police vehicle. The two youths, who were not wearing compulsory crash helmets, died on the spot. A few hours later, Anne-Lorraine (23), a young journalist, was stabbed to death on a suburban train near Creil, whilst resisting a man who was trying to rape her. The man had already been convicted for violent sexual assault in 1996.

The news of the deaths of Mouhsin and Lakamy became world news, dominating today’s media in France and abroad. Anne-Lorraine’s death is a mere footnote, a “faits divers” in France, a non-event abroad.

After Mouhsin’s and Lakamy’s deaths their friends and relatives went on a rampage. They destroyed two police stations and a petrol station, torched a few dozen cars, looted stores and injured at least 25 police officers (two of them seriously) and one fireman. A spokesman of the French police union said today that the officers had been shot at by youths with firearms. According to Omar Sehhouli, the brother of one of the two dead youths, the eruption of violence was not what it seemed. “This is not violence,” Omar told the French press agency AFP, “but just anger that needs to be expressed”.

The French authorities fear that the immigrant youths in the Paris suburbs will feel a need to express another round of anger tonight. The French President, Nicolas Sarkozy, is currently in China. His Interior Minister, Michèle Alliot-Marie is in charge. She has “urged all sides to act responsibly” and has promised a full inquiry. The “all sides” refers to the angry youths on the one hand and the police on the other hand. The French judicial authorities are conducting a manslaughter investigation against the officers in the police car. According to the friends and relatives of Mouhsin and Lakamy, the officers fled from the scene of the accident, without caring for the two dead boys and without waiting for the friends and relatives to show up.

A police chief who arrived on the scene was, however, beaten up and suffered serious facial trauma. Four police cars that arrived shortly afterwards, also fled when they were attacked, leaving the entire neighbourhood under the control of the youth gangs. A few hours later, when the prefect (governor) of the Val d’Oise province, Paul-Henry Trollé, came to Villiers-le-Bel, a delegation of the youths told him that they want justice to be done and the policemen punished. “Otherwise we will do justice ourselves. We demand the truth or we will screw up everything.”

In November 2005 the accidental death of two immigrant youths in Clichy-sous-Bois, another Paris suburb, led to weeks of violence and unrest in which “angry” friends of the youths set alight over 10,000 cars and arsoned more than 300 buildings, including schools. It took almost a month before Nicolas Sarkozy, the then minister of the Interior, was able to restore law and order. He did this by withdrawing the police and abandoning the immigrant neighbourhoods to the control of the local youths.

A few hours after the death of Mouhsin and Lakamy, Anne-Lorraine, a 23-year old journalism student, was attacked in a suburban train. Her body was discovered in an empty carriage when the train entered its terminus at Creil, also in the Val d’Oise province. The girl was covered in blood and had over thirty stab wounds in the chest and face. She was still alive but died shortly afterwards. The police later arrested a 44-year old man with stab wounds on his arms. When questioned he confessed that he had assaulted the young woman. The man had been convicted for sexual assaults in 1996, including a rape under threat of a knife on the same train line, but he had since been released. The man said that he had tried to rape Anne-Lorraine because they were alone in the train carriage. He had stabbed her because she resisted him.

Today, Interior Minister Michèle Alliot-Marie offered her condolences to the young woman’s relatives and friends. The latter have not gone on a rampage. They have not torched train carriages nor have they arsoned train stations. The French authorities do not fear they will turn to violence in the coming nights, either. One wonders why. Is there no “anger that needs to be expressed”?

77 policemen injured, rioters are using guns

Submitted by kristof on Tue, 2007-11-27 17:09.

http://www.fdesouche.com/?p=590 

 According to Patrice Ribeiro, the head of the police union 'Synergie', 77 policemen have been injured in Villiers-le-Bel. He also says some rioters have fired guns at the police

 

http://www.fdesouche.com/?p=592 

president Sarkozy will meet the families of the two dead banlieusards (aka the two dumbasses driving their mobilette without helmets who ran into a police car).

Meeting...

Submitted by atheling on Tue, 2007-11-27 17:11.

"president Sarkozy will meet the families of the two dead banlieusards (aka the two dumbasses driving their mobilette without helmets who ran into a police car)."

Presumably to present them the Darwin award?

Another night of riots

Submitted by Bruno on Tue, 2007-11-27 08:52.

There's been another night of riots with a school, supermarket, public library burnt down and 38 wounded among police, inculding 5 seriously, the rioters having used shotguns. A policeman in particular only survived because he wore body armor, but the bullets went through and he is seriously wounded.
You hear already again the appeasing leftist and media crowd (and also a few supposedly rightists) blaming the "sentiment d'exclusion" (feeling of exclusion) for the violence...
Link to a french newspaper article today :
http://www.leparisien.fr/home/info/faitsdivers/articles.htm?articleid=29...

testing Sarkozy

Submitted by kristof on Tue, 2007-11-27 05:53.

they're testing the waters, to see if the president will be as wimpy as he was two years ago. I bet Sarkozy will try to organize some show of force that will horrify the leftists and fool the people into believing he's tough on crime. He didn't do sht to stop all the destruction back then and yet his inaction earned him a racaille-busting tough guy repution! I kid you not.

If all the criminals loving leftists hate him then he can only be doing something right, right ? No, that reasoning is wrong but in absence of any french official with the balls to defend the country the faire semblant and the media* created myths will unfortunately be enough for a lot of frenchmen.

*(imagine all newspapers and TV stations being as leftists and anti-national as The Guardian is in Britain and you've got a good idea of how poisonous the french media is)

 

dhimmitude is cheap and easy....

Submitted by onecent on Tue, 2007-11-27 02:51.

Oh, for God's sake, get off of your knees, French people, dhimmitude as required by the pc muli-culti lefties and their elite is so cheap and easy, take a stand...."After Moushin’s and Larami’s deaths their friends and relatives went on a rampage. They destroyed two police stations and a petrol station, torched a few dozen cars, looted stores and injured at least 25 police officers (two of them seriously) and one fireman"....there is nothing in that set of facts that a normal person shouldn't be infuriated by. What's wrong with us that we allow the uncouth to take their antisocial and violent cultural norms into our societies unchallenged?

The French police would crack heads if they weren't constrained by the numbskulls on the left that have tied their hands, the same numbskulls that deserve burqas as time wears on. Accepting numerous indignations doesn't make one virtuous.

Is Sarkozy really up to the task at hand is my question?

It was so predictable that

Submitted by Citizen Z on Tue, 2007-11-27 01:19.

It was so predictable that sooner or later there would happen something like this again.

About a week ago I did a google news search.. to checkup if anything was going on in the area.
On the contrary I expected to find, I read that "Claude Dilain, the Socialist mayor, held a memorial ceremony in Clichy. It passed off calmly."
There are other signs of improvement.

After reading that article, I knew those "improvements" wouldn't stand long. It was all a matter of time. And now we're here - even sooner than I expected myself.

So what's next?
This evening already 30 policemen are injured. I'm sorry to say this, but they got what they asked for. What a smart cop in France should do, is quit his job. When you don't know it already with the facts from some years ago, you, cop, are not going to make the difference. Even when you catch some guys, more are waiting - and most you catched always say "I didn't do anything, you can't proove it" - so, they are probably released anyway. Further, a few months or years later, their younger brothers are also on the streets.
It's sad, but the way things like this are handled, won't help anyone. Also all 'help' they got already through the social system, has lead to nothing but expansion of poor trouble areas. All over Europe. Riots like this can happen almost everywhere, on different scales.

Also this side note: today, I read that Luc Lamine, the chief of police who was a key player when Abou Jahjah was behind riots in Antwerp, is now saying (sorry, Dutch alert, this is a free translation):
"Within 10 years there are no more problems with Marocs and they are integrated as Jews and Turks, but then there are probably problems with East Europeans".

Well, I don't agree. It's still scary that people with lot of authority think that way and just don't dare to see the truth.

The idea is that the state has to protect his civilians against aggression, crime, their proporty,.. . If the police can't prevent all these cars set on fire, attacks on firemen, .. Then why don't they stop and say to the civilians: Sorry, we tried what we can, but we can't help you anymore. We're safer to quit our job and just go home, besides, my wife doesn't want to see me killed by these .. "youths".

Because that is what I see, lawless areas where nobody is safe or can be protected.
They'll just wait, hope, and see if it goes over. But hey, the tax payers don't diserve a country they are trying (must) to build up, to be trashed this way. I believe, more and more people in the EU are want these things to stop, yesterday, at all costs.
When people get the feeling nobody can protect them, they'll start protecting themselves. Sounds logical to me.
So, when will someone freak out when a group is trashing his store and he kills some of the attackers? Or a bus driver who don't wants his bus attacked by stopping, and just drive ahead? Is that also a matter of time?

To actually make my point:
the stupid cop keeps doing what he does, and likes going to the firework at evenings
the smart cop stops working out of own safety
the smarter cop makes every cop stop working in these circumstances, they all have to stop until they have more rights to protect civilians, (public) property and themselves.
Until Sarkozy returned from china to give appropriate instructions, maybe it's beter that the army could temporarily take over?

My sympathy for the family and friends of Marie-Lorraine.

Anne Lorraine

Submitted by Taurus689 on Tue, 2007-11-27 01:10.

"The man said that he had tried to rape Anne-Lorraine because they were alone in the train carriage. He had stabbed her because she resisted him."

I can't get this out of my mind! It is so reminiscent of so many victimized young women here in the US by our home grown beasts.He tried to rape her because they were alone in the train carriage! That's all it takes to set off the primitives. If I had the resources I would be on the next plane and try to smoke that bastard myself. If he was a convicted rapist why in hell was he on the streets?

Keep these third world slime out! Their condition for citizenship should be voluntary castration.

 

Anne Lorraine 2

Submitted by atheling on Tue, 2007-11-27 02:35.

"He tried to rape her because they were alone in the train carriage!"

If she packed heat the story might have ended differently...

I remember reading about a woman who got into an empthy elevator and was quickly joined by a man who tried to assault her wielding a knife. She had a gun in her purse and shot him in the leg. Later she said, "I guess he won't try that again".

Crack a few empty Muslim heads

Submitted by Zen Master on Tue, 2007-11-27 00:13.

 

It is time for the Paris police to ‘crack a few Muslim heads’ and let these youth know they do not rule the streets and boss the French police. Do it now or they will pay a larger price later.

Cut the PC c#@* it's time to ge even

Submitted by pet85022 on Mon, 2007-11-26 23:31.

"After Moushin’s and Larami’s deaths their friends and relatives went on a rampage. They destroyed two police stations and a petrol station, torched a few dozen cars, looted stores and injured at least 25 police officers (two of them seriously) and one fireman. A spokesman of the French police union said today that the officers had been shot at by youths with firearms. The French authorities fear that the immigrant youths in the Paris suburbs will feel a need to express another round of anger tonight. The youths told him that they want justice to be done and the policemen punished. “Otherwise we will do justice ourselves. We demand the truth or we will screw up everything.”
According to Omar Sehhouli, the brother of one of the two dead youths, the eruption of violence was not what it seemed. “This is not violence,” Omar told the French press agency AFP, “but just anger that needs to be expressed”.

From what I've read in the incident appears to have been nothing more than a traffic accident. The police left the scene because they knew what would happen if they stayed (A police chief who arrived on the scene was, however, beaten up and suffered serious facial trauma.) they knew that would have been their fate or worse.  

Just what French law gives these moslem youths the right to screw up everything?
"They destroyed two police stations and a petrol station, torched a few dozen cars, looted stores and injured at least 25 police officers (two of them seriously) and one fireman." I do believe the French police have the same rights under French laws to do justice themselves and to vent anger that needs to be expressed to those who injured them.
There is an old American saying, "What goes around comes around". I think the moslem youths had better watch out, what they sow so shall they reap.

Anger to express.

Submitted by Taurus689 on Mon, 2007-11-26 23:25.

There is no description of the murdering rapist nor any mention made of his ethnicity. This is usually a clear sign that he was one of the wonderful minorities that France has welcomed in to murder, rape and pillage. Is there an article from a French daily that has a picture of this piece of s--t?

If I were a family member of Marie Lorraine, I would find a way to get to him. That would be my mission for the rest of my life. These people must be stopped. French people, re-read the words of your anthem and take some action.

The "sin cojones" politcians are talking about an investigation into the deaths of the two "youths". They stole the motorcyle, they led the police on a chase and died in a collision! More of these incidents should end thusly.

They will be the next Rodney Kings and will serve as another excuse to do what the primitives do best.

And the moral of the story is?

Submitted by The Undhimmi on Mon, 2007-11-26 22:44.

Ban Muslim Immigration. And:

• Reclaim your suburbs
• Where you can deport, do deport
• Limit Child Benefit to three children
• Demolish Ghetto-friendly buildings
• Do not allow no-go areas for Police - use emergency powers if necessary
• Restrict wearing of the veil at every opportunity
• Crack down on suspect Hawalas
• End Mosque-building
• Make some strong examples - put some of these thugs away for life.

As one of your neighbours who, like you, is also being betrayed by his own Government, the time to act has arrived.

The greedy businessmen who have grown to resemble cheap labour crack addicts, the mentally-limited multiculturalists, pliant and corrupt politicians - must all be silenced.

Reclaim La France.
From an Englishman