Capital of the EUSSR 7: The Man With the Cross
From the desk of The Brussels Journal on Sat, 2007-09-15 21:02
The following witness account by a Hajo J., a German Christian, was published on the Politically Incorrect blog [in German]. This is an English translation:
On 11 September 2007, at 11.30 o’ clock, I arrived at Place du Luxembourg. There were lots of policemen and armoured vehicles. I met an acquaintance with two other like-minded people at a pub. There was only meant to be a “meeting of tourists” and no coordinated action. I then went to another part of the square. Stephen Gash of SIOE was giving many interviews as he sat quietly in a pub, i.e. he was not demonstrating.
A short while later several people were taken away in a prison-van, without there having been any indication that they had “demonstrated” or done anything in particular (I was to hear the same observation again and again). It was almost 12 o’ clock. A murmuring went through the crowd, we had to do something , now was the remembrance moment for the 9/11 terror victims in the USA.
I decided there and then to take out the wooden cross I had brought and to hold it high – defying any kind of unknown. In remembrance of the victims, as a sign of protest against the threatening, creeping islamization of Europe, the lack of resistance and the increasing appeasement. And of course in spontaneous protest against the unjust banning of the demonstration by the mayor of Brussels, Mr. Thielemans. All this accompanied by a prayer and in remembrance of many Catholic saints, who resisted the same danger of Islamic rule centuries ago. Think only of Saint Marco d’Aviano, a Capuchin friar who encouraged the troops as the Muslim hordes of the Ottoman Sultan descended upon them at the battle of Vienna on 12 September 1683.
My gesture was a purely individual act, I had freedom of speech according to Article 5 of the constitution and Article 11 of the European Charter of Human Rights. My action consisted only of holding up a wooden cross, praying silently and answering the questions of about 50 journalists in English, French and German as I walked.
At 13.00 hours the Brussels police grabbed hold of me, pushed me violently into a van with the registration plate “NNN 148” and a shield with the word “Charly 2” which was attached inside so as to be visible on the outside of the van. The policemen, as most of those I encountered later, were from the Police Zone 5339 (one of six Brussels police zones).
I was taken to the Palais de Justice, Place Poelaert, tel. 02/508-6656. I was brought into a high-ceilinged space where many others were already waiting. More and more detinees were brought in, also the leaders of the Vlaams Belang, Filip Dewinter and Bart Debie. The latter – a former police officer – told me that we could not be held for longer than 12 hours without a formal complaint. Normally one was then released without any further consequences. I did not need to inform the German embassy, but could do so for the political effect.
After about an hour we were put into small cells that had only a thick green and one bench. First I was locked up in the cell with six other people, then alone, in the end with three members of the Vlaams Belang. We were only permitted to use the toilets now and again. In the evening we got a waffle. I was able to phone on my mobile and reached a German lawyer and the German embassy. The latter informed me that diplomatic intervention was out of the question because Belgium is a constitutional state and that if I was interrogated I was allowed to have a lawyer. So I resigned to my fate.
There was a lot of noise and turmoil in the large, five-storey high cell block which contained 20 cells, that were almost all full (the papers said that 154 people were arrested that day). The slogan “Islamisten: Terroristen” was the one I liked best and which I joined in loudly as it expressed concisely the essence of our concern. A chairman of a local chapter of the Vlaams Belang related to me how badly his party gets treated when campaigning, that the police do not come in emergencies, and that his party is the only one that points out the risks of islamization.
At 7.30 pm I was set free, after a superficial procedure to retrieve our belongings. Nothing was taken from me, except for a while the contents of my bag, which were placed in a plastic bag and then everything was given back to me. I asked for a written confirmation of my detention but did not get one.
When one considers that the Place Royale in Brussels has a statue of the first ruler of the Kingdom of Jerusalem, Godfrey of Bouillon, who died in Palestine on 17 July 1100 during the first Crusade, I can only say: poor Belgium – how far you have drifted from your fundamental values and traditions…
@ hellspenguin
Submitted by Atlanticist911 on Fri, 2007-10-12 10:48.
I cited the example of the Ainu as a device to make a rather narrow and specific point to spraynasal.Furthermore,I'm fully aware of the severe limitations of wikipedia and personally would NEVER use it as a first port of call for information on ANY topic.However,I note that many people on the BJ like to reference it in their blogs so I use it because they are familiar with it.Anyway,thanks for dropping by.It's always good to receive feedback from thoughtful,educated people.
Actually...
Submitted by hellspenguin on Fri, 2007-10-12 08:16.
@atheling:
I would say you are mistaken. The so called westernization of Japan began with the Meiji Restoration in the 1870s. It was this restoration that paved the way for the Japan that attacked Pearl Harbor. For example, the Japanese constitution of the Meiji Era granted civil rights within the limits of the law, and such laws were easily changed as the “Peace Preservation Laws” from the 1880s and the large number of suppressed civil rights movements shows (people know the Satsuma Rebellion, which had the -unjustified- hype around the “Last Samurai”, but barely anyone knows about the struggle of the peasants and workers for their rights and the extremely brutal reaction from the government and military). The constitution also placed the emperor on top of everything as an overly present “father figure” of the Japanese people and began spreading nationalism, following the European role model (the people didn’t consider themselves to be “Japanese” before that, people were from Morioka, Edo, or Aki province (just three random examples), the term "nippon-jin" pops up with the arrival of massive Western influence). The military soon took advantage of politics and the result was a terrible war.
Additionally, the atrocities in China and other places can not, under no circumstances, be blamed on traditional Japanese values. These events did not happen because of these old values. In fact, if the members of the Japanese military, who committed crimes, would have followed these old values, the atrocities would not have happened. Someone, who follows the old bushido (as defined by Yamamoto Tsunetomo’s “Hagakure” or Taira Shigesuke’s “Bushido shoshinshu” in the late 1600s and early 1700s), does not rape women and bayonet children. Bushido strictly forbids such behavior. The bushido used by the Japanese military before and during the war, however, is a mutilated version that focuses only on absolute loyalty and obedience towards the emperor. Original bushido shows seven virtues, loyalty being only one of them (compassion, for example, is another.)
Korea, China and the rest of Asia, were sacked by Japan AFTER the restoration of the imperial reign, which brought an opening towards the west and a greater influence by the west (INCLUDING Christianity.) Yes, Toyotomi Hideyoshi tried to take Korea in the 1590s, and failed. However, Tokugawa Ieyasu and his samurai did not take part in the two wars and under the Tokugawa reign the country shut itself off and did not attempt to invade anyone or anything. Invasions and expansion became a factor under the imperial rule, and the simple reason for this is: the Western influence (in comparison, the Tokugawa Bakufu showed no wish for expansion towards Korea or China.) Great Britain, the Netherlands, France and later Germany were all countries that had or aspired colonies. Japan wanted to follow this idea, of course. Japan wanted to make sure that it would not share the fate of China (which had foreign forces of occupation in many different places). Japan, more or less, tried to play in the big league with the Western countries and for that, the country needed expansion, needed colonies (all the so called Christian super powers of those days had such.) The result was just as disgusting and horrible as the colonization done by the “Christian” countries.
@Atlanticist911:
The problems for the Ainu really began with the Meiji Restoration. Before that, nobody in Edo gave a damn about Hokkaido. It was there, yes, but it was pretty much unimportant. Being sent there for common duty was not privilege for the normal samurai, it was a punishment. Yes, there were a couple of battles, but largely nothing much happened. The Ainu lost some land, but the Tokugawa Bakufu never made any attempts of eradicating or assimilating them (unlike the Meiji government, which was, as I mentioned above, following the Western role model.)
With the restoration, the country was supposed to be modernized (it was not, however, the majority of the Japanese population remained horribly poor until WW2, the only thing that changed for the normal people was that the Tokugawa rulers and their allies -a dictatorship- had been replaced with the emperor and his allies of the Satsuma-Choshu-Tosa oligarchy -another dictatorship).
Additionally, don’t believe everything wiki says. Universities discourage the use of wikipedia for research for a reason.
Irony?
Submitted by Andrew Ian Dodge on Mon, 2007-09-17 21:01.
Considering the jackbooted thugs arresting people that day...its ironic they grabbed a German
@spraynasal
Submitted by Atlanticist911 on Sun, 2007-09-16 18:49.
"Would you deny that countries like Japan...have reached an acceptable level of human development?"
Well, try substituting the word 'Ainu' for the words 'Native American',then you tell me?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ainu_people
@ spraynasal
Submitted by Geraldo on Sun, 2007-09-16 18:27.
But in so far the only killings you mentioned were christian ones.
Is it racism or religious prejudice we se there?
@Atheling
Submitted by Atlanticist911 on Sun, 2007-09-16 18:20.
Great news,Atheling.Perhaps Dr Thornton might consider writing a series of commentaries on the 'Belgium Crisis',which he could later incorporate into his lectures on "The Rise and Fall of Western Europe".(see link,below).One can but hope...
http://www.vdh2008.com/
@ spraynasal
Submitted by traveller on Sun, 2007-09-16 17:56.
I just discovered your comments about the murderous christians.
This continuous bullshit about the christians being responsible for all evil on earth is disgusting.
The only countries with a universal social welfaresystem are christian nations, the only nations with an acceptable wealth distribution are christian nations.
Through the whole human history the only humanitatian evolution was through christianity.
Slavery was from all times, all cultures and was only stopped by christian governments. So please stop this bullshit about the bad christians. TODAY there are no governments with an acceptable human program except in the so-called christian hemisphere, because of their christian roots. Of course they are now, influenced by socialism and communism, allowing comfort-abortions and comfort-euthanasia and it will not take very long for the socialists and free-masons to decide who will live and who will die by genetic pre-selection and this, my friend, will be because we abandon christianity.
STOP this masochism and self-chastising
I don't say, Mr Traveller,
Submitted by spraynasal on Sun, 2007-09-16 18:18.
I don't say, Mr Traveller, that bad christian are more guilty than others. On the other hand would you deny that countries like Japan, who are not of christian tradition, have reached an acceptable level of human development? Christianity is one way to a better humanity, but not the only one and this way has to be cleaned and improved..like all the others ways. By pointing out at historical deviances of christianity, I don't reject it: True love, simply, is not blindness...
@spraynasal
Submitted by atheling on Sun, 2007-09-16 18:35.
You fail to differentiate between the fact that Christianity forbids murder (and I mean it in the legal sense) of innocent people and Islam supports it (i.e. killing infidels who refuse to convert). People who happen to be Christian or come from a Christian country still commit murder and other crimes IN SPITE of Christianity's teachings.
Muslims, however, commmit murder and other crimes BECAUSE of Islam's teachings.
Your example of Japan is erroneous. Japan's atrocities during WWII (and prior to that - recall their occupation of Korea) cannot be exempted. Japan's "development", as you like to call it, is a result of its WESTERNIZATION, which cannot be separated from the fact that the West is Christian-influenced.
In the name of the cross #2 (ecosystems)
Submitted by Atlanticist911 on Sun, 2007-09-16 12:18.
The Indian ecologist is a myth no more true than the picture of Puritan-Indian harmony.Like all peoples in human history,American Indians exploited their harsh environment...Pre-contact Indians used fire extensively to clear forest for farming,promote tree species more useful to them,and facilitate travel and hunting.Whole herds of game were driven off cliffs,with no regard whatsoever for modern ecological conceptions of waste or conservation...
Excerpted from: "A Time for Real Indians" by Bruce Thornton.
Rocky Mountain tribes entertained Lewis and Clark "by applying torches to sap-dripping fir trees,which then exploded like Roman candles" The Great Plains is mostly an artifact of Indian burning,and the presence of bison in the East was due to Indians,who burned off forests and thus created a landscape more suitable for bison...
Excerpted from: "New World,Old Myths". again by Bruce Thornton.
The Crusades....
"Black men" (slavery?)...
Global poverty...
Etc.,...
@Atlanticist911... again
Submitted by atheling on Sun, 2007-09-16 17:17.
You're right about the romanticism spread about the American Indian. They also treated women harshly, and engaged in slavery and torture!
@Atlanticist911
Submitted by atheling on Sun, 2007-09-16 17:15.
Funny you should be quoting Dr. Thornton on this. I just emailed him and got a reply about the Brussels Demo (I sent him a link to this site) and he is going see about writing this up in a column!
(I met him in Seattle during a seminar "Islam and the West" sponsored by the conservative think tank, the Intercollegiate Studies Institute). Brilliant thinker!
Excellent article...
Submitted by atheling on Sun, 2007-09-16 03:38.
Appreciate the courage this person has to quietly demonstrate against the Establishment.
Is there any law against false arrest? What charges did they bring against these folks? Can they get away with jailing these people for doing NOTHING???
@spraynasal
Submitted by atheling on Sun, 2007-09-16 03:36.
What the hell are you spraying into your nasal cavity?
Re: In the name of the cross
Submitted by Atlanticist911 on Sat, 2007-09-15 23:53.
@ spraynasal
"In the name of the cross we have submitted the native people of America..."
Now,that ahistorical generalization makes me cross...
http://www.badeagle.com/html/nation_building.html
Title: Nation Building,Comanche Style.
In the name of the cross,
Submitted by spraynasal on Sat, 2007-09-15 23:09.
In the name of the cross, and in violation of God's laws.. we have also killed in Jerusalem under Godfrey of Bouillon.
In the name of the cross, at that time, we have also burned Byzantium.
In the name of the cross we have submitted the native people of America, destroyed the Inca Empire, and later enslaved the blacks once there were not enough indians left.
The miracle of God is that Christianity still exist, after so many betrayals, that we can still rely on faith and hope and charity to give our children solid values and vision of long-lasting values
As for fearing the islam...the West now changing their ways better than in the past...Even radical Muslims got converted to yahoo mail, MP3, google search engines and portable cell phones. Western technology keeps becoming universal. True ennemies of christians are utter poverty of too many...and destruction of the global ecosystem. Not other religions...
@ "The Man With the Cross"
Submitted by Atlanticist911 on Sat, 2007-09-15 21:15.
Sir,If you happen to be reading this then I thank you for your witness account and dedicate the following link to you.
Title: The Once and Future Christendom
http://www.amconmag.com/2007/2007_09_10/cover.html