Sweden: Collaboration, Then and Now

From the desk of Fjordman on Fri, 2007-08-10 08:02

A group of Swedes spied for the Stasi, the secret police of the GDR, Communist East Germany. Some of the spies were journalists.

Swedish Security Service Säpo has confirmed that it has identified a number of Swedes who informed for the East German secret police, but has refused to make their names public. A book published in June claims that Säpo has a list of 900 Swedes who had contact with the Stasi. Björn Cederberg, author of the book ‘Kamrat Spion: Om Sverige i Stasi Arkiven’ (Comrade Spy: Sweden in the Stasi Archives), told The Local that that the list came to Sweden from the CIA: “In 1993 a list became available containing the names of around 900 Swedes with some connection to the Stasi. The people at the German archives reckon that only around 50 of these actually worked on behalf of the East Germans.” Sweden has long been known as home to a significant core of East German sympathisers. Former Left Party leader Lars Werner had close ties to GDR diplomats, who paid for the drinks for his fortieth birthday party.

This pattern of collaboration with the enemies of the West and of freedom is, sadly, still alive. The Swedish Social Democratic Party, like many other Labor parties, have decided to cooperate with Muslims and import voters while ignoring the violence caused by these Muslims against the native population.

According to this post from the website of Broderskapsrörelsen (“The Brotherhood”), an organization of Christian members of the Swedish Social Democratic Party, the party has decided to establish a network for people of other faiths (which largely seems to mean Muslims). “This is a historic decision for the Brotherhood,” says leader Peter Weiderud. “I’m incredibly happy that a unanimous congress now lets the door open for Muslims and others to work together with us in the Brotherhood; this is going to enrich us all and help the [Social Democratic] Party to better influence the Swedish society.”

For Abdulkader Habib, active within the Muslim Brotherhood, the decision is a historic step which shows that the dividing lines in society do not go between religions, but within religions. “As a Muslim Social Democrat I have more in common with the Christian Social Democrats than I have with those within the Muslim Right,” says Habib. “Faith and politics is intertwined for many Muslims, which is why the decision to create this network is a key to the crucial work for integration that we need to do, and I believe that the Brotherhood is the right organization to do this within.”

“We shouldn’t disregard the importance of people's [religious] faith,” says deputy leader Cecilia Dalman-Eek. “When we now get the opportunity to open the doors to people with another faith it is obvious that we should contribute with our experience. At the same time, this is both instructive and inspiring for us Christians within the Brotherhood. This is about an exciting growth of new mass movements and is a part of the new Sweden.”

The Social Democrats are now following the line of reasoning put forward by Jens Orback, former Cabinet Minister for the Social Democrats, who said during a radio debate that: “We must be open and tolerant towards Islam and Muslims because when we become a minority, they will be so towards us.” The Swedish Social Democrats narrowly lost the elections last year, and appear to have decided that the way to regain and maintain power is to import Muslim voters, a strategy followed by several of their sister parties.

Background information on Swedish collaborationism:

Muslim Journalist: ‘Stockholm’s Great Mosque Sympathizes with Muslim Brotherhood’

The Muslim Brotherhood has condemned the 9/11 attacks, but justifies... suicide attacks against Israelis. The organization is also close to the Palestinian movement Hamas – whose ideology is very similar to Nazism, and which is guilty of many brutal terror attacks. For the Muslim Brotherhood, Sweden is in many ways an ideal country, [and it] shares the ideals of the [Swedish] Social Democrats in their view of the welfare society. Leading figures in Muslim congregations are also active within the Social Democratic [Party], and have very good relations with Sweden's Christian Social Democrats – Broderskapsrörelsen [the Brotherhood Movement]. The Social Democrats have, in turn, and perhaps as thanks for the support they receive from the mosque leadership, shown a tendency to shy away from the fact that there is extremism in some of our mosques. This has given the Muslim Brotherhood the freedom to force its ideology upon [the mosque's worshippers].

Sweden’s Unholy Alliance

The Social Democratic party has started fishing for votes with the help of radical Muslims clergies. For several years the Christian wing of the Social Democratic party, called The Brotherhood, has been working with the influential Muslim leader Mahmoud Aldebe, president of Sweden's Muslim Association. In 1999, Aldebe went on radio proposing that Sharia – the Islamic law – be introduced in Sweden. In addition, Aldebe has in a letter to the Swedish minister of Justice in 2003 involved himself in a heated debate regarding an incident of honor-related murder where a Kurdish girl was murdered by her two uncles. Aldebe did not condemn the murderers – rather he forcefully defended the perpetrators. Aldebe sees the entire debate regarding honor-related murders as an attack against the Islamic religion and claims in his letter that a public debate regarding these acts of murder risk to “encourage immigrant girls to revolt against the tradition of the families and their religious values.” The Social Democrat Ola Johansson referred to the book Social Justice in Islam  by the Islamic ideologue Sayyid Qutb as proof that the social democratic ideology could find common ground with Islamic ideas.

The New York Times and Sweden: The Dark Side of Paradise

In the spring of 2006, Sweden’s largest Muslim organisation demanded in a letter, signed by its leader Mahmoud Aldebe, that Sweden introduce separate laws for Muslims. The letter was a list running over several pages with aggressive demands for just about everything; separate family laws for Muslims, regulating marriage and divorce, that public schools should employ imams to teach homogeneous classes of Muslims children in their religion and the language of their original homeland, and a “mosque in every municipality to be built through interest-free loans made available by the local municipalities.” This to “demonstrate” Islam’s right to exist in Sweden” and to “heighten the status of and respect towards Muslims.” The demands were rejected then. After the last election in 2002, Sweden’s Muslim Association sent a congratulation letter to the re-elected Social Democratic Prime minister Göran Persson, congratulating him on his victory and hoping that his Party would work for implementing some of the demands of the Association in the future.

@Rzeczpospolita

Submitted by Amsterdamsky on Fri, 2007-09-21 00:13.

All I know about you polish people is your anti-gay and anti-abortion protests.  Despite having already a fairly large presence in the Netherlands I have yet to meet any of you in a pub. 

@Amsterdamsky

Submitted by Monarchist on Thu, 2007-09-20 20:19.

Polish, despite being white and fairly hard working, are just as much of a threat to the Netherlands as muslims

 

Imagine an ironic smile in my face when I read this sentence. Of course you can do in your country what you want, I will just share with you my opinion. I think that I know a bigger threat for your country than Muslims and Poles, I mean the Dutch people of course. Civilization that you developed is self-destructing and will be crushed sooner or later anyway, honestly speaking deservedly. The problem for me is that those Muslims will later head eastwards, so I dont like such outcome at all.  
 

 

Proud to be American!

Submitted by Amsterdamsky on Tue, 2007-08-14 10:46.

I am so proud to be american!!  Our biggest minority problems are DOMESTIC and not from immigrants!  Yay!  Thanks european slavers!!

Are u sure of that?

Submitted by GPalya on Tue, 2007-08-14 19:23.

Are u sure of that?
I always thought that the majority of US-citizens were immigrants.
Except of course the few native Americans, namely the indians, that more or less survived the immigration!

@GPalya:

Submitted by atheling on Wed, 2007-08-15 05:10.

Yeah, he's sure of it. If you stick around for a while, you'll see why he thinks like that... it'll be an education.

@Atlanticist911

Submitted by Atlanticist911 on Tue, 2007-08-14 09:32.

Kapitein: "Good points.Far from being an isolated problem,Muslim immigants are merely the vanguard of a wave of undesirables".

 

Atlanticist911: "Perhaps if Yitzhak responds to the Kapitein's post I'll finally get my answer".

 

Yitzhak:"Unlike Eurabia bandwagon riders..."

 

Note to Atlanticist911:

 

Looks like you might as well talk to yourself as expect to get a clear answer on this one

 

Atlanticist911: I suppose you're right.Never mind,at least I tried. 

Sweden & Immigration

Submitted by Yitzhak on Tue, 2007-08-14 08:45.

Very simple fact is Sweden might not be a perfect country; I am sure Swedes care about Sweden and western civilization as much any other European. Unlike Eurabia bandwagon riders I my self had personally experienced ground realities in Malmö and Stockholm yes there are problems in Sweden but same problems are everywhere in continental Europe and Swedes are trying to fix these problems. It’s absolutely ridiculous to portray every Swede like they don’t care about their country. There are some immigrant areas in Malmö where native Swedes don’t like to live but such areas exists in every single part of Europe in Norway I don’t remember what is exactly the name of that area but its very close to Oslo’s main bus terminal, Fagernes is a small city and yet you will find gangs of every kind (Russian, Nigerian & even Jamaicans etc).

Problem is Immigration and not Just Muslim immigration. Chinese immigrants rioting in Milan and fighting against native Italians and police are not Muslims. Finland is facing problem with Russians, Africans, Chinese & Vietnamese immigrants. In Canada and Kapitein probably knows about this, in Malton, Brampton and most parts of Scarborough areas native Canadians don’t want to live. Caribbean gangs are much bigger worry in Canada then any other group. Canadians face more problems with immigrants from Caribbean, Sikh Indians and South America far more then just from Muslim immigrants. In US Hispanics are devote Christians then why Americans are having trouble with them? 1 out of 10 counties in US is non-white now by 2050 US would be a non-white majority. Maybe Eurabia bandwagon enlightens uninformed people like me about rape statistics in US. 

The immigration problem is not just simply about religious difference.

All the same to me

Submitted by Amsterdamsky on Mon, 2007-08-13 14:47.

Yitzak "Good points. Far from being an isolated problem, Muslim immigrants are merely the vanguard of a wave of undesirables."

See I feel the same about jews and catholics.  I like our Dutch laws regarding drugs and gay marriage and these groups all want to change them.  Polish, despite being white and fairly hard working, are just as much of a threat to the Netherlands as muslims (although if I had to pick a hostile immigrant group I would prefer that they work).

@Amsterdamsky

Submitted by Atlanticist911 on Sun, 2007-08-12 23:47.

I am not confused about anything,neither about what you believe is the problem or what you propose as the solution.But I DO have a problem understanding Yitzhak's position on this issue.He appears to believe that the Eurabia thesis (i.e  the Islamization of Europe,both demographically and culturally) is something of a red herring and that people who jump on to this bandwagon are at best misguided and at worst fools.I have tried asking him to clarify his position for me but without success,so I thought you might be able to succeed here where I have clearly failed.

Update:

In Kapitein Andre's reply to Yitzhak,the Kapitein writes,"Good points.Far from being an isolated problem,Muslim immigrants are merely the vanguard of a wave of undesirables".Perhaps if Yitzhak responds to the Kapitein's post I'll finally get my answer.

In Reply to Yitzhak

Submitted by Kapitein Andre on Sun, 2007-08-12 22:59.

Yitzhak: "Oh and would you mind enlightening uninformed (non-Norwegians) like me about non-islamofascist gangs (Christian Nigerians, Christian Russians, Christian South Americans etc..) in Fagernes & Oslo? While we are at it I am sure you going to enlighten uninformed non-Norwegians like me about rapes committed by non-islamofascist (non-Muslim) immigrants."

 

Good points. Far from being an isolated problem, Muslim immigrants are merely the vanguard of a wave of undesirables.

Muslim criminality and deportation

Submitted by Amsterdamsky on Sun, 2007-08-12 15:03.

Re: Atlanticist.  Not sure I understand your confustion.  They Dutch government doesn't release figures of course (more censorship) but it has been estimated that nearly 80% or more of the prison population is comprised of muslim immigrants.  Seeing the the first goat lovers arrived only in the 1960's if one deports these criminals and everyone that came in on the original visa including that visa holder you will effectively deport a massive amount of the muslim population.  I am sure that Sweden and Norway are the same.  Seeing that something like 2% of dutch crimes are solves a little better police work could have the effect of undoing this entire 3rd world migration.  Again, there is no political will to do this.  Dutch will merely whine and shop as usual until the end comes. 

Logic behind this:  Nearly all immigration is through family unification and is a chain reaction from the original visa granted.  If anyone commits a felony you are effectively violating the immigration contract given by the state.  The left has no problem doing this as Hirsi Ali was effectively stripped of her Dutch Nationality for lying on her asylum application so why would it be so difficult to do this for felons and their families? 

@Amsterdamsky

Submitted by Atlanticist911 on Sun, 2007-08-12 13:40.

Yitzhak: "A Campaign revolking citizenship of Islamofascists in Norway would be a good start".

 

Amsterdamsky:"Maybe after the first dirty bomb goes off in a major EU capilal thus affecting the political elites themselves might change this " (i.e.the revolking of citizenship from ANY immigrant convicted of felony BUT mostly affecting the Muslim immigrant population).

 

Yitzhak: "Here we go again...Eurabia bandwagon riders doing an excellent job to keep people away from REAL IMMIGRATION issues..."

 

Amsterdamsky:   ?????????????????????????????????????????????????? 

Revoking citizenship

Submitted by Amsterdamsky on Sun, 2007-08-12 13:03.

Yitzak"A campaign Revoking citizenships of Islamofascist in Norway would be good start."

 

The situation is still controllable.  1)  any immigrant convicted of a felony needs to be stripped of their citizenship and be deported to country of origin ALONG with any family that came in on the original visa.  This would almost certainly cut the muslim population in Holland by at least 1/2.  The political will to carry this out is sadly lacking.  Maybe after the first dirty bomb goes off in a major EU capital thus affecting the political elites themselvesmight change this.

 

 

Sweden & Norway

Submitted by Yitzhak on Sun, 2007-08-12 11:57.

Here we go again with usual rant against Sweden. Eurabia Bandwagon riders are doing an excellent job to keep people away from REAL IMMIGRATION issues.

Stasi sympathizers were in every part of Scandinavia not just Sweden.

I am still waiting for Fjordman to give up his armchair and start something practical. A campaign Revoking citizenships of Islamofascist in Norway would be good start. I am sure Framstegspartiet & Siv Jensen going to stand by you. Oh and would you mind enlightening uninformed (non-Norwegians) like me about non-islamofascist gangs (Christian Nigerians, Christian Russians, Christian South Americans etc..) in Fagernes & Oslo? While we are at it I am sure you going to enlighten uninformed non-Norwegians like me about rapes committed by non-islamofascist (non-Muslim) immigrants.

Economic non-freedom in Sweden

Submitted by Amsterdamsky on Sat, 2007-08-11 09:04.

I can't wait until our inbred northern cousins pass the 40% women Directors rule like Norway just did.  Essentially, the government will de-list companies that don't stack their board with 40% women.  For being so incredibly arrogant Swedes essentially have given up their economic freedom without even a fight.  I suppose they still have free speech as long as they are careful not to offend any minority groups.  Milton Friedman was right.  Free speech and free enterprise are essential to a free society.  When one goes the other follows.

" Jens Orback, former Cabinet Minister for the Social Democrats, who said during a radio debate that: “We must be open and tolerant towards Islam and Muslims because when we become a minority, they will be so towards us.” "

Treason. Hang the bastard. He is stating that by aiding a non-swedish group to take control of Sweden he and anyone that helps him will be rewarded. String him up.

Dimitrik :"Swedish model of socialism - I don't know much about how that model differed from other models"

If you are connected with the political elite your company will enjoy special tax free rights and receive permits without question. If you are not connected with the political elite you are doomed to serfdom. Holland is much the same way. Competition is regarded as evil in the european social model.

Why Sweden

Submitted by dimitrik on Sat, 2007-08-11 06:05.

There is definitely something special about Sweden. I don't know much, but what I know is swedish family, ABBA, alcaholism and socialism.

"Swedish family" (Wikipedia) - a bisexual family of 3 people.

ABBA - World-famous swedish group, whose image consists of two naive wifes singing about how they want to have sex with everone, and two pimps who offer their wifes to public.

Alcaholism - swedish men visiting neighboring countries were known for drinking themselves to unconsciousness. Maybe, it was the result of their deep satisfaction with the Swedish socialism (see next post).

Swedish model of socialism - I don't know much about how that model differed from other models, probably the hint is being for years a completely socialist country and a member of the Western block simultaneously.

Re: Sweden & Fjordman

Submitted by missingmyumlauts on Sat, 2007-08-11 04:28.

I don;t really understand...is Brussels Journal 'THE essential European Blog' or a mere Internet subsidiary of IKEA?

Sweden: small EU member country, even less inhabitants then the Belgium, long history of totalitarian Leftist crap (see other Fjordman's postings), even longer history of natives taking their sweet time with Swedish women who could not defend themselves: http://www.mdri.org/report%20documents/violencewomenmd.doc

as well as:

http://www.militia-watchdog.org/Braun/dim_14_1_neutrality_europe.asp

http://www.geocities.com/finnish_alliance/case.htm

Is this a 'Fjordman's Blog' or BJ?

"Lars Werner had close ties to GDR diplomats, who paid for the drinks for his fortieth birthday party."

Was it a pint or half-pint???

In the next episode of 'Fjordman Files':In Poland, local priest crossed the street...."

'Wait ....this is not about Sweden'.....as reported by Norwegian.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qa3760/is_199704/ai_n8760671

Maybe the ongoing meme about Europe defending itself in Sweden is not so far from  http://www.amazon.com/Twilight-Gods-Volunteers-Experiences-SS-Panzergrenadier/dp/1874622167

 

Yeah, well , we are all here because this blog speaks, reads or writes in ENGLISSSSHHH.

So Mr. Fjordman, when you start dissecting & nbsp;an article in The Local about the past (and in terms of historical relevance supported by reaseach that will provide some lame asumptions, we are talking Geological Time Scale),remember, most of visitors to BJ can actually read it without the problem. 

 

Islam is completely compatible with "social democratic" values

Submitted by Amsterdamsky on Fri, 2007-08-10 17:06.

" The Social Democrat Ola Johansson referred to the book Social Justice in Islam  by the Islamic ideologue Sayyid Qutb as proof that the social democratic ideology could find common ground with Islamic ideas.
"

 

Of course they are compatible as neither involve free speech, civil liberties and free economies.

In Reply to Fjordman

Submitted by Kapitein Andre on Fri, 2007-08-10 16:21.

The Local: " 'The people at the German archives reckon that only around 50 of these actually worked on behalf of the East Germans.' Sweden has long been known as home to a significant core of East German sympathisers."

 

I am certain that far more West Germans than Swedes collaborated with the DDR. 50 or even the 900 mentioned earlier is an insignificant number: if you want to discuss Swedish collaboration, you are better off referring to their complicity with the National Socialists.