A Continent of Losers
From the desk of Fjordman on Mon, 2007-06-04 11:18
The migration waves now hitting Europe are unprecedented in human history, and far, far greater in scope and speed than those which brought down the Roman Empire in the 5th century. Newsweek writes about “Europe’s invisible illegals”:
European authorities are becoming nervous about burgeoning Pakistani populations in places – such as Italy, Spain and France – where there were few or none at all just a few years ago. Now numbering in the hundreds of thousands, many of these Pakistanis have sneaked onto the Continent via Iran, Turkey and the Balkans. They’ve also begun taking a circuitous route across Africa and then by ship to Spain’s Canary Islands or the Mediterranean coasts of Europe. Almost overnight, Pakistani neighborhoods have sprung up in Barcelona and Bologna. Increasing numbers of Pakistanis now use Africa as their stepping stone. The Pakistanis, who must travel longer distances, pay traffickers almost 10 times as much as Africans do – from $11,000 to $20,000 – to get them in. In some cases they are also guaranteed help for two or three attempts to make it across the frontier. Some fly first to East Africa or the Sahara. It’s now common for African and European patrols to intercept boats carrying scores of South Asians bound for Europe.
Lars Hedegaard interviewed German professor Gunnar Heinsohn who pointed out that while “A woman in Tunisia has 1.7 children. In France she may have six because the French government pays her to have them. Of course, the money was never intended to benefit Tunisian women in particular, but French women will not touch this money, whereas the Tunisian women are only too happy to.”
US is serious about visa waivers being eliminated.
Submitted by Amsterdamsky on Tue, 2007-06-05 15:52.
From Frank Lee "Threatening to end the visa waiver program is one of those dumb, ineffectual moves the U.S. government does occasionally."
It really does seem inconceivable that the US would revoke the visa waiver for the UK after their help in Iraq and Afganistan but the US is taking this very seriously this time. Either EU Dhimmi states need to get their immigration policies and enforcement in order or you will not be admitted to the US automatically. It has already been reduced from 6 months to 3 months since 9/11 so again the US is serious.
In Reply to dll2000 - On "Racism" & "Xenophobia"
Submitted by Kapitein Andre on Tue, 2007-06-05 06:48.
dll2000: "Opponents are called racist (sound familiar?) and xenophobic, when in reality they are just trying to preserve their culture and values."
From a technical standpoint, these accusations are accurate. Why? Firstly, if one considers one's ethnicity and/or culture worth preserving, then one must consider it superior to other ethnicities and/or cultures. This superiority does not have to be universal (e.g. Germanization of the Sorb and Polabian Slavs); rather it may merely be superior for the individual or group in question.* Secondly, what does this 'preservation' practically entail? Halting further immigration? Repatriating foreign-born residents? Assimilation? Ethnic cleansing? Segregation? The problem encountered here is that if one truly believes in the preservation of his or her ethno-cultural group, then one must be prepared to fight for it**, which may involve actively or passively harming other individuals and/or groups. Given contemporary demographics in Western European states, "preservation" of indigenous ethno-national groups would entail active measures far beyond the passive immigration control that a homogenous state such as Japan or Poland could rely on.
*Cultural relativism negates any rationale for or attempts are "preservation," for obvious reasons. However, it is possible to be patriotic and yet be relativistic from an international or universal perspective.
**...and if necessary kill for it. I am omitting "dying for it" primarily because the goal of any such group is to preserve and if possible expand its numbers, and incurring fatalities, in isolation, would be generally counter to these ends.
Kapitein Andre
Submitted by dll2000 on Tue, 2007-06-05 17:20.
From a technical standpoint, these accusations are accurate. Why? Firstly, if one considers one's ethnicity and/or culture worth preserving, then one must consider it superior to other ethnicities and/or cultures.
I agree that a person can consider their culture superior and I believe that some culture's are indeed superior to others, objectively. However, that belief doesnt make someone a racist since person's of many races can enjoy the same culture.
Secondly, what does this 'preservation' practically entail? Halting further immigration? Repatriating foreign-born residents? Assimilation? Ethnic cleansing? Segregation? The problem encountered here is that if one truly believes in the preservation of his or her ethno-cultural group, then one must be prepared to fight for it**
I think assimilation is the key. If immigration is occuring in numbers that enable new immigrants to avoid assilimation then that is a problem that must be addressed immediately. Also, Islam itself is a problem in that its tenets are antithetical to Western cultures. Islam may need to be banned as a non-religion cult, either that or it needs a major reformation of its basic tenets which I dont think is possible.
, which may involve actively or passively harming other individuals and/or groups. Given contemporary demographics in Western European states, "preservation" of indigenous ethno-national groups would entail active measures far beyond the passive immigration control that a homogenous state such as Japan or Poland could rely on.
Like I said before, the preservation I speak of is cultural not racial. That being said, I understand the problem at hand and it is a difficult one. There are major political parties with a vested and ideological interest in destroying the dominant cultural norms in both Europe and the U.S. In Europe, it has been more feverish in particular in regards to capitalism and Chrisitianity. Nevertheless, it is present here in the U.S. as well.
The international left has a spoken goal of no countries or borders with everyone living in a socialist paradise (with them in charge of course). In order to do that they have to destroy or run major institutions that impart our cultural norms ie; education, boy scouts, church, nuclear family, marriage, physical contact sports, etc.
The other part of their plan enacted in more recent years (last 30) is to import poor individuals from 3rd world countries whose vote can be bought with promises of benefits and racism charges of their opponents. This strategy has worked well, California once the land of Reagan is a solidly leftist state. In fact every state with mass immigration save Texas is solidly left.
I think the immediate answer is more activism and education from the right. If that fails and we lose the ideoligical war, violence is the inevitable outcome has people become more ethnically centered in their demands from the govt. Eventually this leads to tribalism and the type of situations you see so prevelant in Africa and the Middle East.
We'll fight, but the odds are long to prevent this outcome.
In the pool
Submitted by Jari on Tue, 2007-06-05 15:40.
As soon as the lumps of bread reached the water, the ducks started to fight, wildly splashing in the pool, ending up assaulting the females.
'Oh see how they love it. They are so cute!' said the mother.
According to Gunnar Heinsohn, if you give a lot of young men enough to eat and a certain education in a society where there are too many young men so that not all can get the recognition and positions that they feel entitled to, it may lead to violence.
Conclusion: do not feed the wild ducks
until
Submitted by JimMtnViewCaUSA on Mon, 2007-06-04 18:28.
"...With the balance between big government multi-cultural socialists and
small government capitalists so close, immigration will surely turn the
tide in their favor..."
For a short time, until the damage is permanent and the multi-culti's are cast aside by those they've enabled to take over...
Thank you
Submitted by dll2000 on Mon, 2007-06-04 16:36.
I would like to thank Belien and Fjordman. Their work in exposing the outcomes of mass 3rd world immigration into Europe has shined a big light on the drawbacks of doing the same in the U.S.
Although, we are foolishly doing it anyway and have been for 3 decades. Its not happening without a fight this time around. Odds are against us, with the media, the wealthy and the power elite of both parties in favor of open borders.
Opponents are called racist (sound familiar?) and xenophobic, when in reality they are just trying to preserve their culture and values. Socialists know that importing millions of poor whose votes are for sale is a sure fire way to maintain power forever as seen in Europe.
With the balance between big government multi-cultural socialists and small government capitalists so close, immigration will surely turn the tide in their favor.
Europe and America
Submitted by Quijybo on Tue, 2007-06-05 04:01.
The problems Europe is experiencing with its Muslim minority are totally different than what America is experiencing with the Latino immigration. Both groups comprise the unskilled labor pool, but that is about the end of the comparison. Latino immigrants participate heavily in the labor force, are Christian (and also are converting to American denominations at a high rate), come from nations where there is at least the seed of womens' rights and secularism when compared with say Pakistan, and are almost totally devoid of any seditious activism, let alone terrorism. The portion of the United States conquered from Mexico is now heavily settled by 1st to 3rd generation Mexicans, and there is no movement to break away. The overwhelming majority of Mexican immigrants of all stripes prefer the American political and legal system.
The primary problems of Latino immigration are gang activity, linguistic separatism (which I think is overblown) and cultural issues like a lack of value placed in education. These can improve over time, and statistically third generation Latinos are thoroughly American. There is detailed research on the differences between 1st, 2nd and 3rd generation Latinos in the US at pewhispanic.org. I have a wealth of practical life experience with assimilated Latino Americans and I have never felt a shred of tension, resentment, anti-Americanism or anti-Semtism.
Compare this with the Muslim immigrant communities, and it is night and day.
In Response
Submitted by Kapitein Andre on Mon, 2007-06-04 16:33.
I am in agreement with markpetens and Heinsohn that family subsidies or baby bonuses are not problematic in and of themselves, and that rather, they are being taken advantage of by illegal and legal immigrants. This is a specific position given the attacks on baby bonuses by Philips and her ideological supporters on this blog.
As far as this entire situation is concerned: where's the Berlin Wall when you need it?
Visa waiver
Submitted by Frank Lee on Mon, 2007-06-04 14:31.
Threatening to end the visa waiver program is one of those dumb, ineffectual moves the U.S. government does occasionally. As long as he has a decent job in the UK, a British citizen of Pakistani descent can simply apply to the U.S. Embassy for a visa and easily receive it, then fly to the U.S. and do his damage. This reminds me of the noise we heard after 9/11, when Mary Ryan was blamed for doing a good job of expediting visa service to Saudis in Riyadh. The thinking was that, if only we have made the Saudi applicants stand in line, they wouldn't have bothered, so 9/11 would never have happened. Or maybe the consular officer might have magically peered into the souls of the applicants, among the tens of thousands of Saudis who apply every year, and detected terroristic intent. Spending more money on intelligence gathering and a decent computer system would do more good.
The US has been threatening
Submitted by Amsterdamsky on Mon, 2007-06-04 13:57.
The US has been threatening to pull the UK visa waiver because of the Pakis. The defacto agreement seems to be to keep the waiver and reject any pakis the INS wants at the border and the UK will pay to bring them home. Incredible. 400,000 visits back to Pakistan each year and many for religious and terrorist training.
strong families
Submitted by markpetens on Mon, 2007-06-04 12:43.
It used to be that politicians promoted child benefits in order to support strong families. Nowadays, you'd better be supporting a removal of child benefits, in order for strong families to flourish.