Oslo Muslims Six Times More Likely to Rape
From the desk of Filip van Laenen on Fri, 2007-03-02 22:28
Norway's most important paper Aftenposten ran a story earlier this week saying that 65% of the rape crimes in Oslo were committed by foreigners, even though they only represent a mere 23% of the population in the Norwegian capital. The article was prompted by a call by the Rape Commission (Voldtektsutvalget) to the imams to put rapes and the attitude against women on the agenda.
Foreigners are six times more likely to figure in crime statistics concerning rapes in Oslo. During the first two months of this year sixteen rapes and rape attempts have been committed, and the three men the police are looking for in connection with four of those cases have one thing in common: they all have a Muslim background. Especially Somalis and Iraqis seem to be well represented in the statistics.
Even though the article doesn't do much more than quote some simple basic facts, it was nevertheless a bit controversial. The social democratic minister Bjarne Håkon Hanssen reacted quickly to condemn the tone of the article since it made a link between rapes and Muslims. According to him, asking the imams for help is wrong, «because we don't ask Norwegian bishops for help either when a Norwegian rapes somebody». Apparently the minister had not noticed that the debate had started precisely because of the huge number of Muslims in the rape statistics. And I wouldn't even dare to suggest he could have another agenda than trying to reduce the number of rapes in the Norwegian capital.
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Rape is a very serious
Submitted by alexa on Wed, 2009-08-05 07:50.
Rape is a very serious problem for women in their home countries, and things like this are not uncommon.Christian women, for example, are routinely kidnapped and raped for days on end until they sign a conversion paper in countries like Egypt.
marirea penisului
In Reply to Taurus689 and Armor
Submitted by Kapitein Andre on Wed, 2007-03-14 15:29.
An interesting book on the subject of the causes of male violence is The Beast Within by Neil Boyd, covering testosterone, parental criminality, alcohol, etc. The causes are far from simple and the only difference between men and women is that women are less likely to resort to physical violence even if they are as aggressive as males.
In Reply to Sam Iqbal Part 2
Submitted by Kapitein Andre on Wed, 2007-03-07 16:36.
Sam Iqbal: "Scottish nationalism is VERY different from Arkan loving Kaptein Andre Serb nationalism."
Who said I "love" Arkan or the excesses of Serb nationalism? Believe me, the more threatened the Scotch feel as a nation, the more their nationalism will change to react to the perceived threat.
Sam Iqbal: "Scottish Nats look to countries such as Norway, Finland, Denmark, Ireland for inspriration."
So? Scotland has always been culturally linked to Ireland and Scandinavia, and not because of Scandinavian hospitality towards Muslims and other non-White immigrants. Notice that Scotland is not studying the United States, England, France, Germany, or any state outside of northwestern Europe.
Sam Iqbal: "Immigrants who are educated and want to work hard to make Scotland a vibrant, diverse, interesting and economically successful country are always welcome regardless of race, creed or religion."
If this were so, Scotland would not be looking towards Northern Europe would it? It is common knowledge that Scotland is more intolerant and discriminatory than England is, due in part to its nationalism and the resurgence of separatism.
In Reply to Sam Iqbal
Submitted by Kapitein Andre on Wed, 2007-03-07 07:45.
Sam Iqbal: "The author is therefore suggesting that rape and Islam are interconnected based on 16 rapes and alleged rapes..."
Actually the statistics have been correlating Muslim immigration and increased sexual assaults throughout Scandinavia since their arrival en masse. Additionally, the series of gang rapes on White girls by Lebanese and Pakistani gangs in Australia, in which were shown in court to be hate crimes adds fuel to the fire. This particular set of statistics is only confirming what many here and throughout the West already believe.
Sam Iqbal: "If we take a similar sized country such as Scotland...the statistics will tell another story...the overwhelming majority (+95%) of attackers have been White indigenous Scottish males."
Firstly, 97.99% of the Scottish population is White, of which 88.09% are indigenous Scotch. Secondly, Muslims constitute only 0.8% of the Scottish population.
Sam Iqbal: "Rape is not something that should be attributed to one race or creed or religion."
So long as Muslim intellectuals use these cliched excuses and do not censure their communities for producing criminal elements that want to engage in jihad through sexual assault against Western women, or more accurately White women, because they are "whores," "bitches," "sluts," are not wearing the hijab or niqab and thus deserve to be nailed "Leb style" (i.e. raped repeatedly by several men over several hours), the hatred will only increase. Once the critical mass of popular discontent has been reached, liberal democracy will collapse and Balkanisation will begin. Perhaps when dozens of Milosevics are sitting in the halls of power and paramilitary units accountable to no one (e.g. Arkan's Tigers) are running amok, Muslims will realize that they should have taken responsibility when they had the chance.
Sam Iqbal: "...a young Pakistani mother dropped her kids off at school before going jogging was brutally raped and murdered by 2 young White men..."
I'm sure the Islamic community will be able to muster some retaliatory gesture. Incidentally, if you are going to use statistics to support your arguments you many want to get them correct and refrain from using anecdotes like the one above.
a nationalist with common sense
Submitted by peter vanderheyden on Wed, 2007-03-07 12:38.
@Sam Iqbal
a nationalist with common sense... I thought i had seen it all, but apparently... :-)
@kapitein
***if you are going to use statistics to support your arguments you many want to get them correct and refrain from using anecdotes ****
I'm a statistician (I know; this is a authority argument) , And I can assure you that this sentence can be used for almost every statistic put in the BJ. Besides, statistics never shows a cause for a certain phenomena. It only shows a link. Although the numbers are very small, we could say that there is a link between “being an immigrant” and “committing rape” in Oslo. But perhaps (and probably) underlying parameters connected with “being an immigrant” are even more strongly linked to “committing rape” Like age, poverty, discrimination, education, etc.. We should take a sample of autochthon males that is equally distributed for all this variables, and compare their “raping-rate” with those of the immigrants.
The raping-rate of Glasgow is substantially higher then the raping-rate in Oslo, although Glasgow has far less immigrants then Oslo. This suggest that “being an immigrant” is certainly not a primary factor in a predictability model for “being a rapist”. There must be other variables that are much more predictive.
Van Laenen is not a statistican. He pretends to be. These are the people that give a bad name to statistics.
But I guess, Van Laenen is not even interested in statistics. His only goal is creating an atmosphere of suspicion and contempt against immigrants and his political opponents. It’s a good thing Sam Iqbal doesn’t understand Dutch. Reading the crap Van Laenen writes in the Dutch part of BJ is very depressing.
@ PVDH, the statistician
Submitted by George2 on Wed, 2007-03-14 09:38.
"Besides, statistics never shows a cause for a certain phenomena."
I am no statistician, but I did learn about and did apply the Granger non-causality test. This is a scientific and statistical method to test what way causality runs between two events (two-way is also a possibility, as is no causality at all). I wonder where you got your degree in statistics.
"Van Laenen is not a statistican. He pretends to be. These are the people that give a bad name to statistics."
1. You claim to be a statistician, yet you don't know the Granger non-causality test. PVDH, the great pretender.
2. Who the hell are you to say somebody cannot use statistics? Do I have to go to a matematician to add two numbers together? Arrogance?
3. I bet you have never used this argument on a leftist site; rightist sites cannot use statistics but leftist sites can; it is only when you get to the correct (I was going to use the word 'right') conclusion, then you are allowed to use statistics.
The world you belong to is the world where you need to have the right label to do something. Using tools to express yourself is not allowed. First you need the right label. However, having the label does not mean you really know the tool. You know, this world existed but it didn't survive. It was called the Soviet Union and Eastern Europe. Did you ever go there while it still existed? Talking about depressing!
leftist (hum hum) "statisticians"
Submitted by Armor on Wed, 2007-03-07 16:41.
PVDH wrote: " @Sam Iqbal
a nationalist with common sense... I thought i had seen it all, but apparently... :-) "
Yes! a Scottish nationalist named Sam Iqbal.
That makes a lot of sense !
"I'm a statistician (I know; this is a authority argument)"
It is not an authority argument at all. When the media publish articles about immigration written by "statisticians", we are used to expect complete nonsense ("immigration numbers have never been so low", and so on).
"we could say that there is a link between “being an immigrant” and “committing rape” in Oslo. But perhaps (and probably) underlying parameters connected with “being an immigrant” are even more strongly linked to “committing rape” Like age, poverty, discrimination, education, etc."
I think the worst kind of discrimination consists of violent attacks on people of another group. White people are the main victims of this kind of "discrimination", especially when women are raped by immigrants. Suggesting that immigrants target white women because they suffer discrimination is a strange point of view. It would make more sense to argue that immigrants are sometimes discriminated against because they are prone to violent and antisocial behavior.
It sounds like what is important to you is to know whether there is a link between the immigrants' genes and their rapist tendencies.
1) I think that Africans, for example, have more testosterone because of their genes, and more testosterone means more violence and more rapes.
2) But if fact, we don't care why the immigrants rape European girls: whether it is in their genes, in their culture, in their personal history, or whether it is caused by European discrimination. If a large percentage among them are likely to commit rapes and other kinds of violence, let them stay in their own countries. (If not, let them stay in their own countries too).
"We should take a sample of autochthon males that is equally distributed for all this variables, and compare their “raping-rate” with those of the immigrants."
You are obviously interested to know if violence is in the genes. The answer is yes, it is partly in the genes. Just look at the results of previous studies, you don't need a new one. If the results of previous studies are not better known, it is probably because they show that Europe would be better off, rape-wise, without third-world immigration (except from China).
But as I said, even if violence and rape are not in the genes, it does not mean we have to bring in more rapists from the third-world.
"The raping-rate of Glasgow is substantially higher then the raping-rate in Oslo, although Glasgow has far less immigrants then Oslo. This suggest that “being an immigrant” is certainly not a primary factor in a predictability model for “being a rapist”. There must be other variables that are much more predictive."
This suggests to me that immigrants, for some reason, commit more rapes in Glasgow than in Oslo.
Anyway, even if white Scots commit more rapes than white Norwegians, it does not mean that stopping immigration is not a good way to protect European girls.
Testosterone
Submitted by Taurus689 on Mon, 2007-03-12 03:46.
1)" I think that Africans, for example, have more testosterone because of their genes, and more testosterone means more violence and more rapes."
How about a genetic lack of self control and self discipline? Testosterone levels should not be used to mitigate what they do. As young adolescents sex, for most of us, was the all consuming drive that occupied our thoughts most of our waking hours. I for one, nor I am sure did you, neverconsidered raping anyone. Self discipline was part of our culture and also rape was a crime. Apparently, in some cultures, rape is only a crime if it is committed by an "infidel" offender.
@ Taurus689
Submitted by Armor on Wed, 2007-03-14 14:35.
In fact, I don't know if testosterone levels differ from one race or group of people to another. But I suppose the difference in behavior can be partly explained by small physical differences. I mentionned testosterone as an example of how a small difference could affect behavior.
Rape in /of Europe
Submitted by Taurus689 on Mon, 2007-03-12 03:33.
A previous article stated that an anti-rape group in Sweden had requested that the local Imams put the issue of rape on their agenda. Apparently in some cases is already IS on their agenda. Several reports credit Imams with stating publicly in their Mosques that the native Swedish, Dutch etc. women deserved to be raped because they dress provocatively. Interviews with young Muslim "men" report remarks to the effect that European women are whores and deserve to be raped.
How do you deal with this type of mentality. The answer is that you don't. You fight back!
These people realize that they have cowed their host countries whose population has been so completely conditioned by PC and historic white guilt that they are defenseless against this onslaught. Consider the analogy of the wildebeest who watch one of their own (sometimes their young) killed by the predators and then return to the business of grazing, content in the knowledge that they have escaped for one more day. They enemy smells the blood in the water.
In the US, the situation is the same although the enemy isn't necessarily Muslim but our home grown and illegally immigrated criminal types for whom rape is their WMD. What better way to degrade the hated European/American male than to degrade his women? Have we have been so browbeaten and intimidated that we would be willing to tolerate the rape and murder of ourselves and of our wives and daughters rather than form a united front against these beasts and suffer the consequence of being called racist?
The police beating of Rodney King (he should have been grateful that he wasn't shot)incited a nightmare of rioting that claimed over 50 lives, countless injuries and billions in destruction but the hideous murder of Theo VanGogh caused no such reaction.
When are invited to someone's home for dinner we wouldn't walk into the host's kitchen, open his refrigerator and help ourselves to its contents. But yet we as hosts have invited these people to our home and we stand by while he despoils our culture and values.
To expect them to assimilate is as useless as trying to corral cats.
The bully, big or small, understands only fear and the way to defeat him is to make him more afraid of you than you are of him. They need to return to from whence they came.
Scottish Nationalism
Submitted by Sam Iqbal on Wed, 2007-03-07 13:23.
Scottish nationalism is VERY different from Arkan loving Kaptein Andre Serb nationalism. Scottish Nats look to countries such as Norway, Finland, Denmark, Ireland for inspriration. Immigrants who are educated and want to work hard to make Scotland a vibrant, diverse, interesting and economically successful country are always welcome regardless of race, creed or religion.
Scottish nationalists from Pakistan
Submitted by Armor on Wed, 2007-03-07 16:32.
Sam Iqbal said: "Scottish nationalism is VERY different from Arkan loving Kaptein Andre Serb nationalism. Scottish Nats look to countries such as Norway, Finland, Denmark, Ireland for inspriration. Immigrants who are educated and want to work hard to make Scotland a vibrant, diverse, interesting and economically successful country are always welcome regardless of race, creed or religion."
What a joke ! Just have a referendum over immigration, and you will see the result. A Scot who favors immigration from the third-world (or even from England) is the opposite of a nationalist.
What happened is that some European nationalist parties have been taken over by the loony left. The loony left then began supporting mass immigration instead of self-determination. Currently, the BNP is a better defender of Scottish interests than the SNP.
RE: Over-simplified as usual
Submitted by Sam Iqbal on Tue, 2007-03-06 17:02.
Van Laenen writes about 'a huge number of Muslims in the rape statistics' and then later writes that 'During the first two months of this year 16 rapes and rape attempts have been committed in Oslo, and the three men the police are looking for in connection with four of those cases have one thing in common: they all have a Muslim background.'
The author is therefore suggesting that rape and Islam are interconnected based on 16 rapes and alleged rapes, four of them committed by a gang of hoodlums who have not been caught but are thought to be Muslim! Wow!
If we take a similar sized country such as Scotland with 5m people, which has a much larger immigrant population and a city with a similar population as Oslo such as Glasgow, the statistics will tell another story.
The Scottish Rape Crisis Commission states that over 100+ rapes and alleged rapes have been reported in the first two months of this year (substantially more than Oslo) and the overwhelming majority (+95%) of attackers have been White indigenous Scottish males.
Thus, according to the writers logic, presumably these males are Christian because they have Christian names and have Christian parents. Most, probably had some bible or Christian instruction at some point in their life perhaps at school or church. To then say that they have raped or attempted to rape because of their religion is preposturous, ignoring many variables such as homelessness, drug abuse, alcoholism etc. Rape is not something that should be attributed to one race or creed or religion. It is something that afflicts all societies. Your story confirms to me the rather sinister and macabre people neo-cons really are. Recently, in Glasgow, a young Pakistani mother dropped her kids off at school before going jogging was brutally raped and murdered by 2 young White men high on drugs at 9am on a Monday morning. How do you explain this?
No wonder the motto of this blog is "News and opinion not fit to print' when even a 10 year old could rip your argument to shreds.
white men are the real prey
Submitted by Amsterdamsky on Mon, 2007-03-05 14:36.
"to the imams to put rapes and the attitude against women on the agenda."
While this is good what really makes me mad is the lack of attention to these womens brothers who are more and more frequently getting the shit kicked out of them by territorial gangs of neo immigrants. Violence is violence. Once again white men are shown to be without any societal or police protection.
Sadly, the rape figures are even worse
Submitted by Yggdrasil on Sun, 2007-03-04 01:04.
Filip Van Laenen writes that 65% of all rapes in Oslo are committed by foreigners. 65% was the figure for 2004. Africans (mainly Somalies) were overrepresented by around 400% and Irakis were overrepresented by 700%(!). Figures for 2005 and 2006 are not yet released, but the Police is expecting the the percentage of foreign rapists to rise. There has been a wave of rape attacks in Oslo since new year. The Police reports that the attacks are getting increasingly violent. All the rapists have been reported to be foreigners and all the victims have been ethnic Norwegian women.
The situation is no better in Sweden with 85% of rapists being foreigners (in period of 2002-2005) and figures for Denmark (2001) is 68%.
http://www.rights.no/hrs_skrib_gen/arkiv/hrs_65.60_070221_130.htm (in Norwegian)
Vindication
Submitted by Kapitein Andre on Sun, 2007-03-04 00:26.
Finally, in spite of attempts by governments in Stockholm, Paris and elsewhere to conceal and alter statistical evidence concerning the disproportionate criminality of non-Europeans in residing in European states, here is concrete evidence of what many (including Fjordman) have been arguing for some time.