It seems some peoples thinking never left the middle ages. David Dennis Said "Nearly everyone in this scenario is far better off then they would have been if the importing of females had not occurred." These men aren't looking for wives and partners. They want a servant, a sperm dump or a baby machine. Sometimes even a punching bag. These scared little men are afraid of an equal. Does Mr. Dennis really think the women are better off or are their feelings ignored in his calculations. Stop glorifying the past. Human history is a story of want and fear and death. We are capable of so much more. It costs the same to train and maintain a scientist as it does a soldier. Can you imagine the strides humanity would make if every soldier was a scientist. The future is ours to seize if we have the courage.  Don't go running to the past.

@ David Dennis

Since you are interested in finding a wife, just a suggestion to take a look at Russian, Ukraine, and Latvian women. Slavic women have a good reputation for being well educated, beautiful, and western orientated. I met an outstanding woman at ‘loveme.com’ and after many emails we met in Saint Petersburg. She is a doctor, very loyal, and beautiful. She has a strong moral character and she has no 'anti- male views'- she does not have that unhappy anti-male point of view found on many US universities.

Being a Russian doctor does not mean she makes any money. Her family background is good, especially good in Soviet times. She drives well and she looks like a European or American. You could pass her on the street in America and she would not look foreign born, not that I worry about the views of my neighbors.

If you visit this site, be sure to use their search engine to find the right height, weight, and age. You can also search certain countries.

About the increased immigration to the West, I think many Muslim men wish to find new wives who have not been ‘corrupted’ by living in the West. The new wife would be very interested in moving to Europe and having a better life style. Life in a Muslim country would seem grim by comparison.

20,000 Muslem youths
80,000 Flemish youths

If 50% of the Moslem youths eventually marry an immigrant and bring them into the country, that means that instead of that age group being 20% Moslem, it becomes almost 30% Moslem.

If the Moslems average 3 children per married couple, in the next generation, there will be 45,000 Moslem children in the next generation.

If the 80,000 Flemish children average 1.5 childrne, there will 60,000 Flemish children in the next generation.

If the 60,000 Moslem children eventually marry and 50% of them bring in an immigrant spouse, there will be 90,000 Moslems in that generation compared to 60,000 Flemish.

National suicide is not really that far off.

It's quite simple and looks like this:

growth% = 100 * root_a((i%/100 + 1) * n) - 100

Where growth% is percentage growth per year,

a is the average age of birth giving women,

i% is the percentage of birth giving women that have been imported,

and n is the number of daughters born per woman.

Using the Turk population in Denmark in the early ninetees as an example:

n~1.75, i%=98%, a~25

Which yields growth% ~ 5.1%

That's a 12 fold increase in Turks in 50 years and 144 fold in a 100 years.

This engine, which is fueled by Danish taxes and Turkish illiterate peasants, would have run out of fuel pretty quick - if it wasn't for the new governments tightening of immigration rules.

There are two problems with your statistics:

1. You take as a given that the number of kids per family is 3.  This depends on the specific community you are discussing.  The birth rate in the Muslim community is going down. There is also a difference between the birth rate by 1st generation and 2nd generation immigrants. 

2. You assume all kids get married.  This would mean that the percent of singles in the Muslim community is 0.

Islam In Europe

"Please be informed that if a White Male wishes to bring home to Britain his Filipina / Indonesian / Thai / Chinese wife, he is effectively treated like a criminal and has (along with she) to "jump through hoops" over several years just to get official blessing."

Actually I am in full support of this red tape and want it to be extended to include all non-European spouses. While this may seem highly prejudicial, lumping together Muslims and non-Muslims in the non-European category, I have very well thought-out reasons for supporting such barriers as those noted above.

While I commend the Danes on their age restrictions, which in my opinion don't go far enough, I believe that the benefits of the welfare state with regards to child bonuses, tax exemptions, etc., are an integral part of any programme to raise the fertility rates of indigenous Europeans.

Though it is unfortunate that Muslims and other non-Europeans are taking advantage of this "largesse" to increase their numbers at the expense of Europeans, the governments' hands are only tied insofar as they adhere to the principle that everyone is equal before the law.

Why should Europeans have to give up their social democracy because of Muslim free-riders who ultimately want to abolish it anyways? Ultimately, Europeans will have to discriminate: they can either do so now at the borders, or later on the battlefields of what once were their bustling cities. Paris and London (relatively) survived two world wars, but I doubt that they will come through the challenges ahead unscathed.

Denmark countered this by prohibiting spouses younger than 24 years old from gaining Danish residency. So that is a possible solution. And, here's another simple solution:

Stop paying the layabouts welfare! Welfare should be limited to 2 children per father. And, it should be time limited.

Look, you can't blame these guys from coming into France or wherever to live on the gravy train. They are doing the smart thing. The payors of this largesse are the ones that have to get their act together.

Typically, in Western countries, if a citizen marries a foreigner, that person is either fast-tracked or given automatic citizenship, because to do otherwise would impinge on the original citizen's rights. However, it is precisely this cornerstone of Western immigration law that is being exploited collectively by Muslims and other non-Westerners to gain entry into the West; indeed, this results only in their increased demographic weight and political clout.

I propose that foreigners, even spouses of citizens, be not given special treatment by immigration authorities.

There might be one way to reduce muslim immigration into Europe.
Outlaw marriage between first cousins.

There's one thing that almost all muslim countries have in common and that is high levels of consanguinity.

The BBC had a program on last year that showed 55% of all marriages within the Pakistani community in Britain were first cousins. That figure was even higher in places like Bradford (75%) and they had the same problem of marrying people from their home country.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4442010.stm

It's likely that the muslims immigrating into Belgium and the rest of Europe also have significantly high levels of first cousin marriage.

Within Turkey the mean rate of consanguinity is 22.6%.
http://journals.tubitak.gov.tr/medical/issues/sag-99-29-2/sag-29-2-14-98...

I think Morocco has similar numbers to Turkey.

If we look at other muslim countries the levels are even higher.

In Pakistan 61.2% of all marriages are between first or second cousins.
http://www.consang.net/global_prevalence/tables/Asia.pdf

If Europe can outlaw that practice it may reduce the numbers of persons immigrating into their countries through marriage.

Another solution could be to raise the age of marriage to 21 or higher.

I read a Paris news article about a Muslim immigrant who married and had a large family. He returned to Morocco to marry his second wife and start a new family in a second apartment. Later he returned to marry his third wife and start a new family with her in Paris. He has never divorced. Now he has eighteen children. His third wife complained about her poor apartment.  All of them live on the French welfare system.

This is dramatic.   My question: do we know the actual statistics at present, or are these cleverly hidden by the government?

Needless to say, the exodus of ethnic Europeans will accelerate as Islamization proceeds.  So, by mid-century it is a certainty that many European countries will be part of the Umma. 

Do you Europeans have a passport to some other country?  More importantly: do your children.  13 of my great-grandmother's brothers and sisters died in the Holocaust because they had no passport.  Don't make the same mistake.  Think ahead.

The first model gives effectively an increase by a factor of 8 (65:8≈8), but for the second model, I find a factor of 19 (153:8≈19) and not of 30. Nevertheless the figure is still alarmingly high.

Model 3 - two thirds of the partners are imported and every couple has four children - gives: 8+16+10+52+34+172=292 or a factor of 36 (292:8≈36).

Model 4 - all the partners are imported and every couple has three children - gives: 8+12+12+36+36+108=212 or a factor of 26 (212:8≈26).