Thank God for the Danish Cartoons

From the desk of Koenraad Elst on Thu, 2006-02-02 12:33

On 31 January 2006 the British House of Commons narrowly defeated – with just 283 votes against 282 – New Labour’s Racial and Religious Hatred Bill, intended to prohibit speech or artistic expressions deemed insulting by religious communities. This was a narrow yet historic victory for freedom of expression, as well as a victory for Parliament against a despotic-minded Government. Liberal-Democratic spokesman Evan Harris commented: “The Government just failed to understand that they can’t take liberties with freedom of expression.”

On the occasion of the House of Commons vote, familiar maxims on liberty were aptly invoked in various debates, e.g. against the British Government’s plea that the bill was “necessary” to make multicultural coexistence possible (an argument invoked by governments across Europe to impose similar censorship laws). William Pitt the Younger was quoted:

“Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom; it is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.”

Regarding the argument that this curtailment of freedom of speech is only a small concession to an acute societal need, Edmund Burke’s words were repeated:

“The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away for expedience and by parts.”

Against the argument that many things people say about other religions are ill-informed or prejudiced, Mahatma Gandhi was quoted:

“Freedom isn’t worth having if it does not connote the freedom to err.”

Undoubtedly the British parliamentary vote boosted the morale of the Danish government and media. The Danes need all the support they can get now that they are being terrorized by Muslim fanatics but also attacked, openly or indirectly, by an international establishment that speaks a.o. through Bill Clinton, the Council of Europe and various EU bureaucrats. The Danes’ freedom of expression is decried as “Islamophobia”, a notion which was introduced by Tariq Ramadan and is now being promoted and inserted into international policy by people such as Karel De Gucht, Belgium’s Foreign Affairs Minister and the current Chairman of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE).

So far the Danish Government and Jyllands-Posten have, while making some conciliatory gestures, stood firm against pressure. Other courageous European newspapers have expressed their support by republishing the controversial cartoons in their own pages.

What seems to cause people most offence are, however, not errors, but hearing things that are undeniably right on the mark. Depicting Mohammed with a bomb in his turban, as in one of the controversial cartoons, hurts because the perpetrators of the most recent acts of Islamic terror, from 9/11 suicide hijacker Mohammed Atta to Mohammed Bouyeri (Theo van Gogh’s assassin), have explicitly affirmed that they were motivated by their zeal for Islam and by the teaching and precedent of the Prophet. Mohammed in fact organized armed raids on caravans, took hostages for ransom, permitted his men to rape the hostages, and ordered the assassination of poets who mocked or criticized him.

Does a scholarly paper documenting the link between Mohammed and terrorism, or a cartoon making the same point, hurt the feelings of all the truly peace-loving, ordinary Muslims? Certainly, but this is where George Orwell’s observation applies:

“If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.”

Millions of Muslims have constructed for themselves a version of Islam that reconciles a veneration for the Prophet and the Quran with an acceptance of more enlightened values of pluralism and tolerance. To them it may come as a shock to see that not everyone shares their views. But that kind of shock therapy is a healthy thing. Those Danish cartoonists may be among the greatest benefactors the Muslims ever had.

To codyomega

Submitted by miracatt on Wed, 2006-02-15 17:08.

(a woman is deprived of an equal share of inheritance solely because she is female)
Yes this is absolutely true and what about it?
God said that the husband is totally responsible on all his wife s expenses and that is why she gets half the inheritance, she has her husband to support her and if she is not married her male family menbers will totally support her. I am a female Muslim i live in Egypt and i dont see any problem with this.
(Another disturbing aspect of traditional Muslim treatment of women is the phenomenon known as “honour killing.” This behaviour, which has absolutely nothing “honourable” about it, involves the murder of women by their male relatives for some perceived slight against the honour of the family unit. Primarily these slights are sexual in nature, ranging from something as serious as fornication to something as relatively innocuous as flirting with a man outside the family. A wife requesting a divorce is cited as another common motivation for honour killings, and they often occur simply because a girl refused to marry a partner chosen by pre-arrangement. There have even been instances where Muslim women have been killed because they had been raped, a crime which Islamic law often considers to be the fault of the woman, not the rapist)
What you call honour killings is not related to Islam at all these are horrible traditions in south Egypt and condemned by all Muslim though definitly our religion teaches us that no man or woman should have a sexual relation outside the marriage bond and the punishement for your knowledge is equal for both of them what we call (Zena). Regarding the subject of divorce i totally disagree, a divorced woman have all the support from everyone there is no problem about this in our religion nor in the community, we even (Muslim females) have the right to divorce ourselves what is called (Khole). The rapist in our religion and in our law is condemned to death the female has all the suuport and sympathy though thanks God this is not common here.
(women in many Muslim countries are not free to even leave the house without their husbands' permission, much less transact business and manage property of their own accord. Because of the debilitating strictures placed upon a woman’s freedom of movement and communication with others (especially men) outside of her kinship unit)
And what is the problem in taking the husband s permission? he is the man of the house and has the right to know everything, to be obeyed and to fulfill his needs what about this? i dont see that females respecting their husbands is a problem. WEll regarding the communication with other man, we have no problem in this i do have my own friends and collegues my husband knows them and there is no problem about this.Many of the statetments you mentioned about prophet Mohamed are not true. I just want to tell you that most of the items you mentioned are not related to Islam, some of them are old traditions among ignorant people and are almost obsolete. Forgive me for the bad english it would have been easier to write in arabic or french.

To Miracatt :Honour Killing

Submitted by A New Believer on Wed, 2006-02-15 18:41.

Submitted by miracatt on Wed, 2006-02-15 17:08.

"This behaviour, which has absolutely nothing “honourable” about it, involves the murder of women by their male relatives for some perceived slight against the honour of the family unit. Primarily these slights are sexual in nature, ranging from something as serious as fornication to something as relatively innocuous as flirting with a man outside the family. A wife requesting a divorce is cited as another common motivation for honour killings, and they often occur simply because a girl refused to marry a partner chosen by pre-arrangement. There have even been instances where Muslim women have been killed because they had been raped, a crime which Islamic law often considers to be the fault of the woman, not the rapist)
What you call honour killings is not related to Islam at all these are horrible traditions in south Egypt "

Miracatt is absolutely right, there is nothing honourable about such things. BUt I should say Miracatt, do not fault "only southern eygptians!" I have have known of Palestinian, syrians, lebanese..among the non igornat ones that committ it. as for saudis, well yes, igorant.. that is without a doubt and the kuwaitis as well. but it goes on all over the Middle East. So please do not blame it all on your countrymen in the southern part of the nation . There is blame throughtout the islamic world to share around. Two such killings last year alone in the USA.

You feel alright about the other things.. that is for you, but I know other muslim women not half so overjoyed.

Odin be Praised! Baldur Save Us!

The ”Boykot Denmark” campaign

Submitted by Gorm on Wed, 2006-02-15 15:38.

Kind of weird – it seems to have the direct opposite effect.
Several companies have reported about increased sale – I’ll post more hard facts on this later.

Gorm

rotten hooker

Submitted by peace on Wed, 2006-02-15 14:50.

and donot forget to take your psychotic drug now before u start your nasty ringing tone ..hhahh

rotten hoooooooker,not even a nail toe

Submitted by peace on Wed, 2006-02-15 14:49.

you married the only man who wanted to marry u while u know he just wants a viusa but no problem with u as your men are all gays...
i am sure that u are ugly wrinckled old slut......you were weaping here all over for not having any man to look at ur face after that arabic man ran away from your ugly face...
i have a perfect wife u are not even to be compared to a nail from her foot toe .
donot forget to go and complain to bob hhahahh..

dirty filthy rotten hooker

Submitted by A New Believer on Wed, 2006-02-15 15:49.

dirty filthy rotten hooker peace baby boy! Ahh did Imran forget to whip you this morning again. Well I cannot do that I am a taken woman. By the way, FYI I am the one who had to stand for the identity papers. Scandinavian countries, have immigration standards also. Oh did you think he would leave
his beautiful country? hahahaha! Sorry, I am the one who had to apply dear. So that blew your theory to hell and back.

I keep tell you dear Imran willnot mind that you are a hideously old and wrinkled slut, bimbo gay drag queen cross dressing freak. He loves you! You play your cards right, you might even get to be first lady * nods to you* ah ha! See! See! It could happen. But first you are going to have to do something about that five o'clock shadow. Isn't it time for your hormonal injections, sweetie! You have to keep them up or you will not be able to have enough up top for the exspensive
breast implants. See if a Danish Doktor will do it. They are very good I hear. Ohh you have a wife, Grandama got her for you hunh! That will be so much fun then, she can watch you and Imran. But you cannot go around sharing her outfits! Do not be a pig, get some of your own. Stand up straight , chest out! gut sucked in. There that is better.. Loose that shade of red lipstick. Looks tacky on you! Do not forget to finish the electrolysis. Saw the website, you look mahvelous dahling, simply mahvelous! You must be something not everyone can do that, and with Paris Hilton's old boyfriend too! But the question we are all here dying to know! Is how the hell did Richie Sambora get that arm he calls ... MobyD up you! Wow! You are good! Does your wife know you are a bottom? Oh sorry she does now hunh! bye bye!

p.s. More Kohl around your eyes and you will look darling* under my breath* after you have those bags removed though.

Odin be Praised! Baldur Save Us!

HOW COME MUSLIMS INSULT JEWS

Submitted by antimuhammed on Wed, 2006-02-15 13:14.

MUSLIMS INSULT JEWS 24/7 AND NOW THEY ARE TELLING THE WEST AND THE WORLD, NO ONE HAS A RIGHT TO INSULT THEIR PROPHET?
HOW MORE TWISTED CAN YOU GET. HOW IN THE WORLD ARE THEY GOING TO ENFORCE OR STOP PEOPLE FROM INSULTING THEIR PROPHET AND WHOMEVER?
IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO NOT OFFEND ANYONE. IT IS ALSO IMPOSSIBLE TO STOP SOMEONE FROM OFFENDING.

THE VERY WORD ISLAM, MUHAMMED, MUSLIM, KORAN IS HIGHLY OFFENSIVE TO ME AND MANY OTHERS. SO WHAT ABOUT OUR RIGHTS TO BE ACCEPTED? HEH?

ATHEISTS GET OFFENDED FOR PEOPLE USING THE WORD GOD OR ALLAH(DEVIL) BECAUSE THEY DON'T BELIEVE IN THE EXISTENCE OF A GOD OR A DEVIL. THEY ALSO DON'T BELIEVE IN THE WORLD'S MAN MADE RELIGIONS.
THERE ARE PEOPLE IN BETWEEN WHO ARE CALLED AGNOSTICS, THEY ARE OFFENDED IF YOU TRY TO MAKE THEM BELIEVE IN THE EXISTENCE OF GOD WITHOUT PROOF OR THE NON EXISTENCE OF GOD WITHOUT PROOF.

JEWS ARE OFFENDED IF PEOPLE DENY THE HOLOCAUST OR IF YOU SAY THEY DIDN'T COME FROM THE TRIBES OF ISRAEL AND FOLLOWED MOSAIC LAWS.
GAYS ARE OFFENDED AT STRAIGHTS
BLACKS ARE OFFENDED AT WHITE PEOPLE.
MEXICANS ARE OFFENDED TOWARDS BLACKS,
ASIANS ARE OFFENDED TOWARDS JAPANESE.
CAT'S ARE OFFENDED BY DOGS AND VICE VERSA.
JACK IN THE BOX IS OFFENDED AT MCDONALDS, BURGER KING IS OFFENDED AT WENDY'S.

CIRCUIT CITY IS OFFENDED AT BESTBUY,

CNN IS OFFENDED AT AL JAZEERA AND VICE VERSA.
DEMOCRATS ARE OFFENDED TOWARDS REPUBLICANS
COMMUNISTS ARE OFFENDED AT DEMOCRACY,

MUSLIMS ARE OFFENDED AT EVERYBODY,
AND I'M OFFENDED AT ALL HUMANS.

PRAISE BE THE KUNG FU GERBIL MASTER, MAY THE FORCE BE WITH YOU!

to this rotten jew

Submitted by peace on Wed, 2006-02-15 13:56.

you are really son of bitch ....you are teased i know that so well.
let your savior save u
hhhahah if he can ...to helll

JASON FUCKED MUHAMMED'S ASS!

Submitted by antimuhammed on Wed, 2006-02-15 12:29.

I THOUGHT ABOUT IT...MUHAMMED IN TURN DID A JIHAD ON JASON CAUSE THE OLD MUHAMMED IS A FAGGOT, THAT'S WHY ISLAMB OR ISLAM IS RELIGION FOR SISSY'S AND COWARDS AND PSYCHOTIC BASTARDS! THAT'S WHAT I THINK!
GONNA DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT?

I'M IN SAN DIEGO CA...
FIND ME SO I CAN EXTERMINATE YOU MUSLIMS AND MUSLIM SCUMS!
JIHAD ON MUSLIMS IS WHAT I SAY!

EVERYONE HAS THE RIGHT TO INSULT WHOMEVER. WHO MADE YOU RULER. THOSE WHO TRY TO FORCE THEIR WILL ON OTHERS USUALLY GET KILLED BY OTHERS WHO ARE TOUGHER AND MIGHTIER!

MUSLIMS ARE WEAK, SO THEY WILL BE DESTROYED IF THEY DON'T END THEIR VIOLENCE TOWARDS NON MUSLIMS!
MUSLIMS HAVE NO RELIGION OTHER THAN THEIR OWN. FUCK MUHAMMED AND HIS MOMMA! FUCK MUSLIMS AND THEIR MOMMAS. FUCK ALL YOU WHORES WHO WORSHIP MUHAMMED AND ALLAH. FUCK THE KORAN, FUCK THE MUSLIMS, FUCK THE JIHADISTS, FUCK ALL OF YOU, EXCEPT FOR NON MUSLIMS!
SO FUCK OFF YOU FUCKIN CAMEL JOCKIES. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT IT WHEN I INSULT YOUR MUHAMMED? I JUST SAID MUHAMMED IS AN ASSHOLE, GOAT SUCKING BITCH! SUCK ON THIS HO!

No body have right to insult any of the Prophets

Submitted by pkvoipking on Wed, 2006-02-15 12:06.

No body have right to insult any of the Prophets either of Islam or Christianity or any other religion

What if we publish picture of Jason raping Alex mother brutaly and fucking off....... will you laugh on it? or react

think on it........

Right to insult

Submitted by Bob Doney on Wed, 2006-02-15 12:58.

No body have right to insult any of the Prophets either of Islam or Christianity or any other religion

Who has decided this? I thought we did have that right.

Who are Jason and Alex?

Bob Doney

to bob

Submitted by peace on Wed, 2006-02-15 14:17.

then i have all rights to insult u

1 Fuck to Danes , Franks EU ( Christian Union)

Submitted by pkvoipking on Wed, 2006-02-15 12:04.

1) I agree that Muslims are not strong at the moment bcoz of lack of good leadership

2) Crusaders have to know that at end they will have a GREAT Defeat, its in the destiny of Crusaders!

3) As far as Israeil jews is concerned its the Evil in world and have no right to exist, if EU is so interested in establish Jews they must repeat a Holocaust again!

4) If you talk about opening churches in muslim countries, take example of PK a lot of churches, not even a single burned, do you want us to BURN it down and beat your chrisitians who are living peacefuly?

5) Pakistan should use it nuclear weapon on west or fuck it off in Musharaff

PVOIPKING

Submitted by A New Believer on Wed, 2006-02-15 14:13.

To PVOIPKING: No but maybe you should die, then what a wonderful world it would be!

Odin be Praised! Baldur Save Us!

nasty rotten hooker peace!

Submitted by A New Believer on Wed, 2006-02-15 14:36.

nasty rotten hooker peace! Hey so Imran said yes.. great. The sari looks darling, a little more eye shadow though dearie. Wax the hair on the tummy, if you are going to use a short sari blouse and the toes, that is just nasty. I am so glad you told your parents finally you were gay! I know! I know it was hard..but think of Imran and all that sweet loving you are getting! Nice hunh! And once again I am really sorry you got outed here on the forum, but look at it this way. Now everybody knows you are just a terribly ugly that you are so cute GAY teddy bear!

Well have to run, looking for I.G. Farben blueprints on the web. so we can build facilites to house Makamnaya's 6 million muslims. Though I am going to protest that. I mean honestly! I do not think we should incarcerate muslims. *giggles* I have another idea!........
*whistling a very old tune from 1938 and berlin...* see you!

Odin be Praised! Baldur Save Us!

rotten hooker peace

Submitted by A New Believer on Wed, 2006-02-15 14:48.

"rotten hooker
Submitted by peace on Wed, 2006-02-15 14:42.
you are really cheap slut"

You should not talk about yourself like that dear, you are getting 50 pfennig. You keep saving it up and then you can pay for your seat on the spaceship. Did I mention before that we are going to tax you on your way out! No.. well consider it done now!

La la la lalalalalalalalalala la la la la lalalalalalalala ( wish you could hear the little ditty I am singing right now. It would warm the cockles of your heart, Hmm! maybe not!)

Odin be Praised! Baldur Save Us!

to liberal american from nermin

Submitted by nermin on Sat, 2006-02-04 16:05.

to the american who ask why american muslims donot riot..what do you mean by that?. do youknow everything happen and how they react...may be because the officals denied the cartoons and absorbed their  anger .clinton said few days ago that this atatck on islam reminds him of antisemitism .

here is a link whcih shows you how islam is the fast growing in USA.

http://www.libertyunites.tv/ftopict-5663.html

Protest reply

Submitted by Patriot on Sat, 2006-02-04 16:26.

You see, if they protest here we'll throw them in jail. We've had enough of the bullshit this side of the Atlantic.

to this Patriot from nermin

Submitted by nermin on Sat, 2006-02-04 16:51.

throw whom Mr fool..i told u before the arabs or Muslims are not the red Indians you eradicate aggressively. wake up…will you throw more than 6 millions American Muslims in jail you are a terrorist here not anyone else.
Wake up again the Muslims by the confess of your liar Mr bush are contributing well to the advancement of your country. as it is well known that USA depend on import of brains from other nations…arabs there work in scientific research of your damned country.
I advice you Mr ignorant to go to your congers library an d see how islam is written on cuba hall there .islam I s the only religion written there among nations an countries which has influential contribution to humanity and civilization.
You donot know what is there in your country too

Well-said Bob. This is the type of constructive...

Submitted by Tolerance on Sat, 2006-02-04 15:39.

attitude that everyone needs. The discussion parties in this thread will hopefully see that not everyone in the muslim and christian world is full of hatred, and there will have to be peaceful solutions. We need to focus on the future, and there is no reason, if we don't succumb to our egos, that we all agree to live together in peace without thinking that one stream of beliefs is better than another. Well-said, keep up the good work.

We need to defend peace

Submitted by Tolerance on Sat, 2006-02-04 14:54.

We need to defend peace, tolerance, respect and end of violance. These are more important. And as muslims we must find ways to set examples of such nature. What is the objective here? In my view, to sustain our existence in this world, together. The main problem is, that members of each religion think that they are better than the others. This default is creating bigger and bigger rift between people. It should be the other way around. I am not sure if this is practically possible, if we don't manage to pull it, there will be no winners. As said in business, there is no win-loose solutions. If one party loses, the other may appear winner for a while, but at the end everyone loses. Let's think win-win, and let's try to find ways to initiate peace and tolerance, no matter what happened in the past. Isn't the objective a better future for everyone?

Win-win

Submitted by Bob Doney on Sat, 2006-02-04 16:01.

Let's think win-win, and let's try to find ways to initiate peace and tolerance, no matter what happened in the past.

In a spirit of mutual admiration (!!) I completely agree.

Bob Doney

to mr bob from nermin( thecase is more complicated)

Submitted by nermin on Sat, 2006-02-04 16:18.

your words are fine but current events donot show any hope for that.USA will never withdraw from iraq till it get assured that the last drop of oil is finished.
even if taht happened and bush or whover went down himself to check the oil well.they will never with draw ...because said it is a crusade war.recently he repeated the same concept in another way and said he willnot extremist to rebuild new caliph extend from spain to indonesia....
as if those extremist are able to build a room or even have any respect from any of the 57 islamic.

countries.
USA will not leave iraq .will not leave that area of the world.this is thenew imperialism in its new face..not like before...
USA will never leave that vital reigion in the arabic reigion.
and rabine mr Bob was the was launching the concept of breaking the bones of the intifada(uprising) of palstinians boys.also thereis something you dont hav ein mind whcih is alkodos( jerusalem) which contain the third blesed mosque in islam.whcih israel want it to be its capital and destroy it to build its temple instead.
aslo you donot know taht their plan i snot only palestine but the super big israel which extend from nile river to euphrate in iraq.
the case is more complicated than what you think Mr Bob.
it isnot only polotical but also religious an d other things unfortunatly.

Complicated

Submitted by Bob Doney on Sat, 2006-02-04 16:50.

USA will never withdraw from iraq till it get assured that the last drop of oil is finished.
even if taht happened and bush or whover went down himself to check the oil well.they will never with draw

The USA, like every country wants security more than anything else. Bush's presidency is nearly over, and his main interest now is domestic - health, pensions, deficits, and so on.

In the State of the Union address, one of Bush's main themes was to wean America off its dependency on oil. That will happen. Too many of the world's oil reserves are in politically unstable regions. I think the Americans have now realised that it is beyond their power to stabilise them by force, and will choose to use their technological power to replace oil as their primary fuel.

recently he repeated the same concept in another way and said he willnot extremist to rebuild new caliph extend from spain to indonesia....
as if those extremist are able to build a room or even have any respect from any of the 57 islamic

The defeat of extremism is almost certainly dependent on economic growth and prosperity.

USA will not leave iraq .will not leave that area of the world.this is thenew imperialism in its new face..not like before...
USA will never leave that vital reigion in the arabic reigion

As I hinted above, I believe the USA is already starting the process of withdrawal. Don't forget that what the Americans want above all is to make money. It may take 20 years, but with India and China growing so fast, the days of oil are numbered. The Chinese don't care who they do business with, just so long as they can get their raw materials. They have no interest in spreading freedom or democracy, and they will become the backers of the totalitarian regimes in your part of the world. See how they are already dealing with Sudan.

also thereis something you dont hav ein mind whcih is alkodos( jerusalem) which contain the third blesed mosque in islam.whcih israel want it to be its capital and destroy it to build its temple instead

I would suggest that it's likely that as part of an overall deal, the Israelis will be prepared to share the governance of Jerusalem. What they want above all is security.

aslo you donot know taht their plan i snot only palestine but the super big israel which extend from nile river to euphrate in iraq.

Some of the religious zealots may want that, but I think you'll find the majority of Israelis will settle for a lot less. Once again, what they want is security, and with their history, who can blame them?

the case is more complicated than what you think Mr Bob.
it isnot only polotical but also religious an d other things unfortunatly.

I couldn't possibly underestimate how complicated it all is. But people are clever and inventive, and those of us who want peace and justice must just keep working away at it. Whether or not there is Paradise after death, let's see if we can make things better in the meantime!!

Bob Doney

London mayor and palastinians

Submitted by nermin on Sat, 2006-02-04 13:54.

read and check our what nonmuslism , non arab says :


LONDON -
U.K. Jewish leaders reacted with outrage to the latest comments of Ken Livingstone, and called him "a lackey of the Muslim agenda" in
Great Britain and said he has "always had this extremist hatred of Jews and Israelis."

 

On Tuesday, Livingstone held a press conference in which he justified Palestinian terrorism against Israelis, saying, “The Palestinians don’t have jets and bombs, they only have their bodies to use as weapons."

 

open you rminds

Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential person

Submitted by nermin on Sat, 2006-02-04 13:57.

My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level."
Michael H. Hart, THE 100: A RANKING OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN HISTORY, New York: Hart Publishing Company, Inc., 1978, p. 33.

Running out

Submitted by Bob Doney on Sat, 2006-02-04 14:10.

Are you running out of thing to say, Nermin? You seem to be repeating a lot of posts and quotations.

Bob Doney

to Mr Bob from nermin(2)

Submitted by nermin on Sat, 2006-02-04 14:57.

also i dont find anyone reply to what i post from facts published in your newspaper by any logic words.
so we are running in Vicsios cycle…
I wish if these posts I repeat about islam and its prophet from the westerner thinkers point of view to be presented here as permenant issues as the other points but of course thisis impossible.that is why I repeat it everyday as I can.
Iam sure than noone ever heard about these things or those books written by most itelelctuals ,thinkers and university professores who convert toislam and who studied islam but without convert..
I think this is the logic reply for those who are saying things without knowledage and for those who claim that islam is fast growing because eof birth rate which are all nonsense because islam is fast growing in USA and is 4 times after11/9 and aso in france and britain…
Here is alink bout britain before you get angry and deny.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1096872/posts?page=33

Conversion

Submitted by Bob Doney on Sat, 2006-02-04 15:13.

for those who claim that islam is fast growing because eof birth rate which are all nonsense because islam is fast growing in USA and is 4 times after11/9 and aso in france and britain…
Here is alink bout britain before you get angry and deny.

What makes you think I'm going to get angry? I like new information, facts and opinions.

I'm not surprised that a lot people in the West are converting to Islam. But others are converting to all sorts of other creeds and beliefs as well. People believe in astrology, New Age healing, witchcraft - all sorts of stuff. As I said in another post, I think it is because people are uncertain and afraid, and there is indeed a lot to be uncertain and afraid about.

But as another poster on here said (sorry, whoever you are, can't remember your handle), a lot of people are also converting to "none of the above" in terms of religion.

Bob Doney

to mr bob from nermin(3)

Submitted by nermin on Sat, 2006-02-04 15:27.

Sorry mr Bob , but saying or comparing convert of people to nothing and to islam is unfaired….yes actor richard gere converted to budhism .but there is noone says that buhdism Is the fast growing faith in the world.
Also there is no othe r fsaith which is bad reputed and attacked by the media as islam yet it resist all that and fast growing.
Also islam is not compared to others because islam invit people to worshipping o f the one god and abandong drinking ,adulterous and all bad things and invit peopelto good ethics and high moral .
So no comparison of course.
Also,people who convert toislam in the west are returing to their normal nature as god created them on.they find islam comes with logic mind not that trinity and savior which made them escape from churches.they find In it peace of mind and answers to all questions as professor murad hofman and jeffery lang said. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0915957671/102-9484010-9729759?v=glance...

http://www.salaam.co.uk/themeofthemonth/june02_index.php?l=6

No comparison of course.
I hope you check th e above links and return tome .

Unfair

Submitted by Bob Doney on Sat, 2006-02-04 15:47.

saying or comparing convert of people to nothing and to islam is unfair

Of course you're going to think it is unfair - I'm not surprised that you do!

Bob Doney

to Mr Bob from nermin

Submitted by nermin on Sat, 2006-02-04 14:43.

iam repeating these posts intended Mr Bob.i want these repeated words to be present everyday and all the time here in this site to reach many people.
aslo these repeated posts are documented and importants .and writen by westernersnlike you..so what is teh harm in posting it over and over again.

Repeated

Submitted by Bob Doney on Sat, 2006-02-04 15:01.

aslo these repeated posts are documented and importants .and writen by westernersnlike you..so what is teh harm in posting it over and over again.

No real harm; it's just boring.

It's interesting though that what Mr Hart defines as "success in the secular world" is that Mohammed led conquering armies which swept through neighbouring territories:

"The Bedouin tribesmen of Arabia had a reputation as fierce warriors. But their number was small; and plagued by disunity and internecine warfare, they had been no match for the larger armies of the kingdoms in the settled agricultural areas to the north. However, unified by Muhammad for the first time in history, and inspired by their fervent belief in the one true God, these small Arab armies now embarked upon one of the most astonishing series of conquests in human history. To the northeast of Arabia lay the large Neo-Persian Empire of the Sassanids; to the northwest lay the Byzantine, or Eastern Roman Empire, centered in Constantinople. Numerically, the Arabs were no match for their opponents. On the field of battle, though, the inspired Arabs rapidly conquered all of Mesopotamia, Syria, and Palestine. By 642, Egypt had been wrested from the Byzantine Empire, while the Persian armies had been crushed at the key battles of Qadisiya in 637, and Nehavend in 642. But even these enormous conquests-which were made under the leadership of Muhammad's close friends and immediate successors, Abu Bakr and 'Umar ibn al-Khattab -did not mark the end of the Arab advance. By 711, the Arab armies had swept completely across North Africa to the Atlantic Ocean There they turned north and, crossing the Strait of Gibraltar, overwhelmed the Visigothic kingdom in Spain."

http://jamaat.net/hart/thetop100.html

An interesting paragraph, considering all the posts there have been on here in the last few days saying that Islamic countries don't invade non-Islamic ones!

Bob Doney

to Mr Bob from nermin

Submitted by nermin on Sat, 2006-02-04 15:14.

at least Mr Bob.it was fair battles.an army against an army.not as we see today , an army of eth super power of the world against nation like iraq with no official army...the most and i donot know what to call is what USA and europe do in occupied palstine..tehy give israel all tyes of weapons an ddeny on palestinians anything .even nthat propses state of palsrtinians tehy claim to be must be stripped of army...is taht fair play.
give palastinians the same weapons an dlet the play be fair and i promise you ,you will never again hear of any suicidal bombing any where...

Fair play

Submitted by Bob Doney on Sat, 2006-02-04 15:32.

an army of eth super power of the world against nation like iraq with no official army...

Oh, come on, Nermin, Saddam Hussein was a military dictator of the worst sort. An absolute, cruel tyrant who would have been succeeded by his even worse sons. It was a terrible (if understandable) misjudgment that the USA backed him against Iran, but an even bigger misjudgment that Russia, France and the others wouldn't stand firm against him before the latest war. Their policies were more led by money than any principles.

the most and i donot know what to call is what USA and europe do in occupied palstine..tehy give israel all tyes of weapons an ddeny on palestinians anything .even nthat propses state of palsrtinians tehy claim to be must be stripped of army...is taht fair play.

No, it isn't fair play. My heart bleeds for the ordinary Palestinian people - in Gaza, on the West Bank, in refugee camps. They have been badly treated all round - by Israel, by the Western powers, by the other Middle Eastern states and by their own leaders. Fatah seem to me to have been a bunch of crooks.

America could definitely have leant on Israel to have brought about a peaceful solution which could have benefited everyone. Indeed it did look as though Rabin was prepared to do a deal at Camp David. Unfortunately Arafat wasted the opportunity, Rabin was assassinated by the right-wing fanatics of his own country, and we now have a Palestinian Authority led by active terrorists.

The answer though isn't to give the Palestinians weapons, or for the Iranian president to talk about sweeping Israel into the sea. The Palestinians deserve a better future, the Israelis need (at last) to feel secure. The answer is to seek a two-state solution by negotiation, with the big powers of East and West trying to be helpful rather than screaming murder from the sidelines.

Bob Doney

to bob

Submitted by peace on Wed, 2006-02-15 14:22.

bob said:(The answer though isn't to give the Palestinians weapons, or for the Iranian president to talk about sweeping Israel into the sea.)
the answer is to cut all types of weapons from palastinians and give all mass destruction weapons to israelis ...that what US and europe do now....racism in its pure form

rotten filthy hooker peace,

Submitted by A New Believer on Wed, 2006-02-15 14:44.

rotten filthy hooker peace, Pull in that gut sweetie, looks bad in the sari. No actually racism in its purest form. Would be for the western world to gather you up "all muslims" and just have a great bakeoff!" Know what I mean dearie? No, well time, and intelligence not being on your side. You think a long time about it! After all people keep telling me here I am a N**I, I think we can all find a solution or two.. But see then we have to feed, water, give medical supplies and all that other humanitarian bs. So maybe a long rocket trip to pluto would be good too! One way destinations as it were! Though since we are being racist about it.. I was thinking.. instead of keeping you all here on the "third rock from the sun" We could let you all embrace allah at the Sun, itself! No muss, no fuss...no worrying about meals, blankets, etc. Then no more allaah allah bab yab ahaba naba saba yakjety smackety il llah haha turban winding, mournful music grinding.. yetch!

You think about which ship you want to be on..alright!

Odin be Praised! Baldur Save Us!

Defend Freedom of Speech

Submitted by Dana Iloff on Sat, 2006-02-04 10:18.

In the U.S we have a term, its called Political Correctness or simply "PC". PC dictates that you do not say or do anthing that might be offensive to anyone else. While I will agree that PC is a good idea in certian settings, i.e the work place, it is non the less an attack on the 1st Admendment (US constitutions Freedom of Speech). To limit one persons right to self expression because a particular group finds it offensive, sets a precident to limit that own groups rights when someone finds their expression offensive.

I applaude Denmark for not limiting her media's right to free speech.

I am sick and tired by my

Submitted by britmikh on Fri, 2006-02-03 09:08.

I am sick and tired by my liberty and freedoms getting stripped away by a crack pot religion ....if the muslims don't like criticism etc then they should stay out of our wonderfull countries, go back to thier dust hole destitute lands that are trapped in the dark ages and not engage with our civilised people or culture anymore. They are a bunch of hypocritical, back-stabbing lunatics and I would be glad to see the back of them!

to britmikh from nermin

Submitted by nermin on Sat, 2006-02-04 12:54.

Our countries are not living in dark and not dust hholes..come and see the gulf countries and see Dubai or Mora coo or Tunisia or shram elsheikh etc., before you pour your hatrede words…if our countries are bad why Clinton , and your Madonna have houses in Dubai and why blair is spending his chrismas vacation in sharm elsheikh for the the third consecutive years and why brad bitt and his anglina jolie was spending their vacation recently in ours….you are totally arrogant.
Donot forget that those Muslims you hate most live in Europe were welcomed by Europe to help in building after your damned world war I and II. As you cannot live without wars and blood.

Now after their mission is finished you want them out

dooms day!!

Submitted by Mr.khan on Fri, 2006-02-03 06:41.

now let the world see what you get in return for making fun of our religion.. scared you should be...

Look at Muslim demeanor

Submitted by Ethnocentrist on Fri, 2006-02-03 02:18.

Here is an Australian Video shortly after the Cronulla "riots". We see how discriminating, peaceful, civilized, and law abiding the Lebanese Muslims are in a white society. I'm sorry, however I do not believe they belong in any European territory. They have no respect for us, our laws, our people, our women, our children, our very existence. The only solution is a one way ticket back to camel-ville and by all means, they can take their "moderates" with them. This may sound harsh and "intolerant", however my children could easily have been the white young man in that video and simply have been in the wrong place at the wrong time. I simply like to state that 1) I do not live my life by haphazard luck and 2) I believe in survival. This is a war for survival and I'd like to place my bet on us.

Stop stealing our Oil

Submitted by Aman on Fri, 2006-02-03 03:19.

5000 thousand Australin drunk gangsters attacked few lebanese, and then you dare to say what you say.
Again no prblem but get out of our land first . if you do not like us then why your companies are in our oil fields, stop stealing our resources, and stop invading our countries.

yes freedom of speech-let's expose THE 'hollowcause' lie NOW!

Submitted by YOU're COOKED (not verified) on Fri, 2006-02-03 06:10.

Something fishy is going on...Have you found out 'bout the NYMEX/IPE,the worthless USDollar, and the MARCH '06 IRANIAN OIL BOURSE launch.You do know about what's going on? DO you have REAL FREE SPEECH and FREE KNOWLEDGE? Doubt so.

Mohammed Cartoons

Submitted by foreign devil (not verified) on Thu, 2006-02-02 22:26.

Well...who's to say it's a picture of Mohammed anyway? I mean no one has seen him and it can only be a figment of the artist's imagination, so is he/she to be arrested for imagining 'Mohammed'? Like this one?
http://adobe.kodakgallery.com/Slideshow.jsp?mode=fromshare&Uc=br0315e.3s...

Only the artist saying it's a representation of 'Mohammed' makes it so and even then it's all subjective.

to forign devil

Submitted by IslaamIsPerfect on Sat, 2006-02-04 13:17.

hi u r right no one has seen prophet Muhammad saw n those pictures r just the imagination of the artists n artists can imagine things , but u see these artists rnt imagining a person in their normal sense but rather the artist is describing this person as a bomb maker , killer , evil looking monster , playing with a lil kid in a sexual way as well n so on , so u see this is where the problem lays n this cant be free speech by insulting a very powerful n well respected man in the history who is loved by more than 1 billion Muslims worldwide n to insult him or show such pictures ascribe to him

may Allaah guide u ameen

Is this Europe's Tiananmen Square moment?

Submitted by Joshua (not verified) on Thu, 2006-02-02 20:59.

I've always wondered what will happen when Islamic supremacists finally reach the limits of the West's willingness to accommodate them. Well, it looks like we're about to find out. Not even 9/11/2001 itself was as direct a challenge to the Western way of life as the "Jyllands jihad." Like Tiananmen Square was for China, this is bound to be a defining moment for all of Europe.

Support for Denmark from North America

Submitted by foreign devil (not verified) on Thu, 2006-02-02 20:24.

Here's some good news for the Danes and Europeans in general. Michelle Malkin's blog (link here: http://michellemalkin.com/archives/004436.htm)
but it's michellemalkin.com if this system doesn't print the link has a great piece on support for the Danes and the cartoonist for 'Day by Day' has drawn piglet courtesy of Disney who appeals to everyone to 'Buy Danish'! This should boost sales. Michelle is hugely popular, especially on the right. She is a Filippino-American who advocates using the internment camp system for jihadis and fellow-travellers and she has her head on straight! Please read what she has to say at her blog.

Thank G*d for the Danish Cartoons!

Submitted by foreign devil (not verified) on Thu, 2006-02-02 19:47.

Ain't that the truth? I saw a piece on this at littlegreenfootballs.com and one of our posters has a montage of Mohammed engravings, woodcuts, etc. from historical times at zombietime.com under Mohammed Archive Montage and I sent the link to Jyllends Posten several days ago to let them know this was a ploy being used by the Muslims against the west. Iran wants us to give them what they want and they'll use their Muslims around the world to threaten us (or in Paris or Denmark) to get it. The youth are their 'shock troops' as demonstrated amply in Gaza and Paris last fall. This is just the latest tactic. DON'T KNUCKLE UNDER. You're not alone! Go to LGF (littlegreenfootballs.com) and find others who've been studying this problem for several years now. We have a lot to teach you! Islam's minions 'use' guilt tactics and many other forms of emotional blackmail as well as physical threats to get their way. RESIST!

forign devil

Submitted by IslaamIsPerfect on Sat, 2006-02-04 13:34.

u sad case ur nick suits ur brain n describes u perfectly u indeed r a devil n u know the definition of a devil??
Anyways mr devil which non Muslim country at present has Islam entered n killed its civilians ???n which Muslim country has cause the death of thousands of non Muslims in the west??? if u open ur eyes u big devil u will see that its the non Muslims using these tactics by doing 9/11 n other bombings n than blaming it on Muslims n than giving themselves the excuse of killing thousands of innocent Muslims n invading their country for stealing thier oil. stop accusing Muslims of wat u r guilty of urself
may Allaah guide u , u poor soul ameen

to danish people

Submitted by nermin on Thu, 2006-02-02 20:02.

You are now complaining from burning your flag and say it is a symbol of a nation…are you kidding .what about mocking a human being who is a great prophet respected an d loved and cherished by 1.5 billion muslims..where is the freedom of opinion….the flag which is apiece of cloth burned by ex president Clinton who burned his own flag as to express his anger from Vietnam war …you are arrogant double standard suffering from superiority complex .

Double standards

Submitted by Mort on Sat, 2006-02-04 12:38.

I say, as a Dane. Burning my flag, as a symbol
of your anger against my Nation, is your right. But many Muslims have said in this debate, that they would never mock other religions, simply because religion is so vital to their way of living. So I allso say,as a christian, are you not mocking my religion, by burning the Cross represented on the Danish flag? Is that not Double standards?

remember MORT free of speech burning flags

Submitted by bashar on Sat, 2006-02-04 15:06.

MORTY MORT why you do not accept burning your flag like these cartoon and take teh burning of your flag in a funny way isnt you guys the funniest people on earth you should be laughing that we are biycotting and burning your cross flag..freedom of speech and press..isnt so......

to mr mort from nermin

Submitted by nermin on Sat, 2006-02-04 12:46.

no mr mort, this Is absolutely different thing…you must know that muslims have never mock anyone …but also donot ask Muslims after you insulted them first to check before burning the flag if this flag contain Christians symbol or not.
Also you keep saying that you do not care about religion in Europe so why is that now about a piece of cloth…
I assure you that when Muslims burning your Danish flag they mean the Danish flag not your Christianity…

That's it, nermin

Submitted by Anonymous11 (not verified) on Thu, 2006-02-02 20:17.

Like others I grow tired of your inconsistent, hateful and biased comments, nermin.
Just as importantly I grow tired of your inability to attempt to refute or even address the individual arguments and points presented by others, including mine.

I'll be taking the advice of another poster and will be ignoring your posts from here on in.

May God guide you

Submitted by Sameh (not verified) on Thu, 2006-02-02 19:46.

Well let me share a story with you,
Prophet Muhammed (Peace be upon him) was only accepted by few people in Mecca (where he was born, lived and started his call for Islam). He was even mocked at by the unbelievers and they even put dust on his head while he was praying.
He thought of going to another place where he might find new believers. He went to Eltaif. Unfortunately, he found all the people of Eltaif and specially little boys waiting for him to throw stones at him. He ran away with his clothes covered with his blood.
He then rested in the shadows of a large tree. At that time, Gebreil (The greatest angel) came to him and asked if he wishes that Gebriel squashes Eltaif between its neighboring mountains.
Guess what Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) said. "Don't do that, I wish that one day, their children might have the guidance and be true believers"
Sorry for the long story.....I just hope that one day, your children might know the truth, have the guidance and worship the one and only God and believe Muhammed (PBUH) is his final prophet.

to sameh

Submitted by IslaamIsPerfect on Sat, 2006-02-04 13:38.

thank u sameh may Allaah reward u brother ameen
u see brother only the ignorant westerners who have no knowledge of Islam whatsoever speak such evil , but for those decent westerners who have knowledge n good manners they will not lie or disrespect Muslims by any means , may Allaah guide the liars ameen

Nermin, with every post, you

Submitted by Bostonian on Thu, 2006-02-02 23:04.

Nermin, with every post, you prove that you do not appreciate Western civilization, do not respect our rights and laws, and fundamentally cannot get along with us.

free of speech bostonian

Submitted by bashar on Sat, 2006-02-04 15:11.

remember nermim has the right to express her values even if they hirt you isnt that freedom of speech ohhh yeahhhh only europpen can say so but when muslims speak jajajjajajjajajjajaj terorista values and bullshit like your values

Bosnian Muslim Leader

Submitted by foreign devil (not verified) on Thu, 2006-02-02 19:56.

And your purpose in publishing a link to those atrocity photographs is...? Are they your atrocities or those of someone you knew? Whatever...they don't belong here. You can mention them but is it really necessary to post that link? Do we really need to see gratuitous pieces of body gristle to illustrate whatever point it seemed to you it was necessary to make, especially without any explanation?

Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential person

Submitted by nermin on Thu, 2006-02-02 20:06.

"My choice of Muhammad to lead the list of the world's most influential persons may surprise some readers and may be questioned by others, but he was the only man in history who was supremely successful on both the religious and secular level."
Michael H. Hart, THE 100: A RANKING OF THE MOST INFLUENTIAL PERSONS IN HISTORY, New York: Hart Publishing Company, Inc., 1978, p. 33.

to IslaamIsPerfect from nermin

Submitted by nermin on Sat, 2006-02-04 13:51.

thank you for encouraging me .it is our duty as muslims if we deserve islam to reply to those ignorant arrogant people and defend our prophet who is alive in our hearts froever.

TO NERMIN

Submitted by antimuhammed on Wed, 2006-02-15 13:17.

IT IS YOUR DUTY TO SUCK MY COCK AS THE NEW WORLD CHAMPION MUHAMMED MASTER BATER!

GET DOWN ON THIS BITCH!
GO SUCK THE NEW AND IMPROVED MUHAMMED'S COCK WITH THE BIG KORANIC HEAD!

MAY THE DARK SIDE BE UPON YOU AND THE GERBIL CREEP UP YOUR ASS! FOR ALL MUSLIMS HAVE GERBILS STUCK UP THEIR ASSES. IT IS THE WILL OF THE PROFITLESS MUHAMMED WHO WAS CAUGHT WITH TWO GERBILS STUCK UP HIS ASS WHILE HE PRAYED ON ALL FOURS!

Thank God the Germans didn't

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 2006-02-02 14:04.

Thank God the Germans didn't win World War II, if they had there would be spy cameras on every street, internet and phone records would be kept on all citizens, they would try to force us to carry ID cards, they would militarize the police, they would take our guns away, put poison in the water supply, signs would be in a foreign language and restrict our freedom of speech and prosecute dissidents. Hey wait a minute...

we cant be tolerants with

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 2006-02-02 14:19.

we cant be tolerants with the intolerants
muslims
in any muslim country you cant build a church
and they come here to critize us.
fuck them
we must ban islam faith till they open their countries to others.
stand up!

cant be tolerant

Submitted by IslaamIsPerfect on Sat, 2006-02-04 12:54.

we cant be tolerants with the intolerants
muslims
in any muslim country you cant build a church
and they come here to critize us.
fuck them
we must ban islam faith till they open their countries to others.
stand up!

u arrogant fool go to egypt n syria n other muslim countries u wil find churches 1000 of them n most r like 100 years old , infact muslims r told by islaam to respect the jews n christians as they r the people of the same book that we belive in (torah n bible) n islaam also preaches that even in a war we must not destroy the places of worship for christians n jews , so u arrogant fool before u lie n make a fool of urself why not do abit of research on islaam abt this issue???? i bet u r the crussader of this dayn age may Allaah guide u ,u poor soul ameen

Interesting comments you

Submitted by adil (not verified) on Thu, 2006-02-02 23:51.

Interesting comments you make. Perhaps you would care to enlighten us as to which Moslem country forbids the building of a church? Please don't say Saudi Arabia - I want to see a mosque built in the Vatican first.
Assuming you are European, my advise to you is to study your own substantial history of intolerance before casting the first stone. I'll give you hint; slavery, colonisation, the holocaust, economic exploitation of the third world, xenophobia, Bosnia, Iraq etc.
I doubt you have the brains to process the information, but I am sure other contributors will see where I'm coming from.

Please Iran, Make your bomb!!!

Submitted by The Crusader (not verified) on Fri, 2006-02-03 00:22.

Because, hopefully and god willing Israel will send a strike force and wipe you all off the face of the planet. And before you think i am a nut, i should tell you that i am just an ordinary guy that can see the future. Islam is intent on taking over the world, and if you are not a muslim, well we can forget about it. Anyway my country(UK) is half way there. We spend so much time kissing Islams arse that we have forgotten what a proud nation we once were. Long live Denmark!!! If i could speak Danish i would move there tomorrow.

mr crussader

Submitted by IslaamIsPerfect on Sat, 2006-02-04 13:02.

hey calmdown n stop day dreaming , u r soo arrogant that u dream 24/7 :) u know wat is ur problem?? u r weak minded n sick person , ppl like u do nothing good in this world eccept preaching hate n intolerance of other ppl. u r angry because islaam is growing?? why do u think islaam is growing? think abt it , n also u mention isreal so u must be a jew , dont u know that God decides as to whom he will wipe out? so stop talking on behalf of God or giving Him orders u arrogant idiot, n one more think im sure there r many jews who will not agree with u nor will stand by injustice but jews like u have given ur religion n other jews a bad name , so keep up with ur plans n plots n yet remember God is the best of the planners
may Allaah guide u poor soul ameen

in your dreams

Submitted by Aman on Fri, 2006-02-03 01:38.

hey Crusader
Your name is just like your comment; you came from the middle ages, may be you did not complete the story of the crusaders who invaded the east, sorry but at the end they were either killed or kicked off our lands
And this is what going to happen to the British mice in Iraq

well, I have to pitty all

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2006-02-03 01:19.

well, I have to pitty all those with such limited minds and blinding anger. A person who considers himself a free spirit who is allowed free speach, shouldn't wish for Israel to blow up all muslims. maybe instead of wishing death for muslims, u should learn a lesson or two from them about how to stand up to humiliation and fight for your principles in life.(that is if you have any)! And its good that you have noticed that wiping off other nations is what Israel is good at...I am a brit myself and I think that you are a disgrace to human race.

well, I have to pitty all

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2006-02-03 01:13.

well, I have to pitty all those with such limited minds and blinding anger. A person who considers himself a free spirit who is allowed free speach, shouldn't wish for Israel to blow up all muslims. maybe instead of wishing death for muslims, u should learn a lesson or two about how to stand up to humiliation and fight for your principles in life.(that is if you have any)!

well, I have to pitty all

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Fri, 2006-02-03 01:13.

well, I have to pitty all those with such limited minds and blinding anger. A person who considers himself a free spirit who is allowed free speach, shouldn't wish for Israel to blow up all muslims. maybe instead of wishing death for muslims, u should learn a lesson or two about how to stand up to humiliation and fight for your principles in life.(that is if you have any)!

Please Iran, Make your bomb!!!

Submitted by The Crusader (not verified) on Fri, 2006-02-03 00:21.

Because, hopefully and god willing Israel will send a strike force and wipe you all off the face of the planet. And before you think i am a nut, i should tell you that i am just an ordinary guy that can see Islam is intent on taking over the world, and if you are not a muslim, well we can forget about it. Anyway my country(UK) is half way there. We spend so much time kissing Islams arse that we have forgotten what a proud nation we once were. Long live Denmark!!! If i could speak Danish i would move there tomorrow.

Interesting comments!!!!

Submitted by Alex (not verified) on Fri, 2006-02-03 00:04.

Slavery, colonisation. Sounds like North African Arab slave traders 19th century. Get your facts right before you mouth off. Good luck to Denmark and it's people for having the balls to stand up for free speech. Wish my government could!!!!. Although our capital is not called 'Londinstan" for nothing.

if europe is so bad why all

Submitted by Anonymous (not verified) on Thu, 2006-02-02 23:56.

if europe is so bad why all of you want to come to europe to live=?
and want to leave your shits countries?
if europe is so bad ,DONT COME .

Interesting comments you

Submitted by adil (not verified) on Thu, 2006-02-02 23:50.

Interesting comments you make. Perhaps you would care to enlighten us as to which Moslem country forbids the building of a church? Please don't say Saudi Arabia - I want to see a mosque built in the Vatican first.
Assuming you are European, my advise to you is to study your own substantial history of intolerance before casting the first stone. I'll give you hint; slavery, colonisation, the holocaust, economic exploitation of the third world, xenophobia, Bosnia, Iraq etc.
I doubt you have the brains to process the information, but I am sure other contributors will see where I'm coming from.

Adil, you have to be one of

Submitted by Jason (not verified) on Fri, 2006-02-03 02:35.

Adil, you have to be one of the stupied people I've ever heard in my life. There is not a single christian church in Saudi Arabia (indeed it is against the law to even posess a Bible) and you defend this gross intolerence by noting that there is not a mosque in the Vatican. What are you 6, or is this the standard of education is Islamic primary school. I like the list of accusations you hurl at European civilization also. Let's see, slavery...the Islamic world never had that did they? Colonisation...hmmmm why is most of east Africa muslim again? The holocaust...well that never happened according to many "educated" Imams. Economic exploitation of the third world...is that what you call it when we pour billions of dollars into oil drilling in the desert shithole you live in? Xenophobia...well now you're just making it too damn easy.

What a sad little joke you are.